Might as well crush Atlanta

jeanpierre · 12-29-2015, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Are we gonna cut Drew?..... and take the 15 million dollar cap hit next year while he plays at another team? I don't think that would be smart.

So we go another year with his cap number as is?!?

Or do we extend? and for how long?!?

ScottF · 12-29-2015, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by jlaw8920

Never been to a game in the Georgia Dome, can't wait to go this weekend. So much more excited then a few weeks ago when I thought Drew might not even play.

this is the first year in 12 that I am not going; first time in awhile that there was nothing on the line

take MARTA- traffic really isn't that bad, but I don't like wading thru the bandwagon, no-nothing Atl fans who tailgate (and don't actually go in)

arsaint · 12-29-2015, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And exactly how are we risking Drew? He has a completely torn plantar fascia. It can't be made worse by playing on it. The only issue is pain and that can be controlled by medication and proper wrapping/support.

Because what limited mobility he has (other than sliding around in the pocket) on a normal day is shot and maybe it gets him steamrolled where a shoulder gets jacked up or a knee taken out.

Aside from stats, there is nothing to play for and hasn't been since losing at home to the bottom feeding Titans.

Remember the Titans??? It sure as hell wasn't an inspirational show...

Danno · 12-29-2015, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So we go another year with his cap number as is?!?

Or do we extend? and for how long?!?

No
Yes
3 years (wrapped in a 5 year contract)

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2015, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Because what limited mobility he has (other than sliding around in the pocket) on a normal day is shot and maybe it gets him steamrolled where a shoulder gets jacked up or a knee taken out.

Aside from stats, there is nothing to play for and hasn't been since losing at home to the bottom feeding Titans.

Remember the Titans??? It sure as hell wasn't an inspirational show...

There are wins to play for. Thank god people that think as you are not in control of the team or the lesson of not doing your very best, trying your very hardest to win would be destroyed. You are speaking like a fan. Not a dis, but not what the team truly needs.

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No
Yes
3 years (wrapped in a 5 year contract)

More patient than me, Danno. I have told him and others exactly the same thing dozens of times over the past couple of years. Either they are too dense to understand or too distracted by their misguided thoughts to care.

voodooido · 12-29-2015, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So we go another year with his cap number as is?!?

Or do we extend? and for how long?!?

If we must go into the season with a 30 million cap hit I would still do it. But, I would much rather extend him 2 more years. That gives us 3 more years which would take Brees to retirement with the passing yards record. If he is not worth his 3rd year then cut him. Eat the cap hit for 1 year. Our cap problems will be fixed by then.

lumm0x · 12-30-2015, 02:16 PM

I doubt we move into next year with him in a final year at a 30M hit. He currently has a $30M hit next year with $20M due in cash. He will likely want to stay around the salary range to be in the top paid QB guys. Make it a 3 year, $55M deal and translate the cap hit to $18.3M per year and bump some back end money into signing bonus to make it very attractive for him. We save cap money immediately while also reducing that positional cap money to a relatively league average for top QB's. Pretty much everyone else is in the 16-19M range for their QB and with the cap going up this can be manageable.

skymike · 12-30-2015, 09:07 PM

tanking is never an option for me.

Lets beat Dem Falcons.

Cheers everybody. Its been a year.
We, arent going anywhere.
Neither is Payton.
Neither is Brees.

skymike · 12-30-2015, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

If it came down to crushing the clowns or losing and getting the 1st pick in the 1st round of the draft, I'd choose to crush the clowns and pick second in the draft!!!

you are the man.

12-29-2015, 04:22 PM	#21
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by Halo Are we gonna cut Drew?..... and take the 15 million dollar cap hit next year while he plays at another team? I don't think that would be smart. So we go another year with his cap number as is?!? Or do we extend? and for how long?!? OldMaid likes this.

12-29-2015, 06:39 PM	#22
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by jlaw8920 Never been to a game in the Georgia Dome, can't wait to go this weekend. So much more excited then a few weeks ago when I thought Drew might not even play. this is the first year in 12 that I am not going; first time in awhile that there was nothing on the line take MARTA- traffic really isn't that bad, but I don't like wading thru the bandwagon, no-nothing Atl fans who tailgate (and don't actually go in) jlaw8920 likes this.

12-29-2015, 06:59 PM	#23
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,716	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And exactly how are we risking Drew? He has a completely torn plantar fascia. It can't be made worse by playing on it. The only issue is pain and that can be controlled by medication and proper wrapping/support. Because what limited mobility he has (other than sliding around in the pocket) on a normal day is shot and maybe it gets him steamrolled where a shoulder gets jacked up or a knee taken out. Aside from stats, there is nothing to play for and hasn't been since losing at home to the bottom feeding Titans. Remember the Titans??? It sure as hell wasn't an inspirational show...

12-29-2015, 07:00 PM	#24
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by jeanpierre So we go another year with his cap number as is?!? Or do we extend? and for how long?!? No Yes 3 years (wrapped in a 5 year contract) Halo, jnormand, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.

12-29-2015, 08:17 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by arsaint Because what limited mobility he has (other than sliding around in the pocket) on a normal day is shot and maybe it gets him steamrolled where a shoulder gets jacked up or a knee taken out. Aside from stats, there is nothing to play for and hasn't been since losing at home to the bottom feeding Titans. Remember the Titans??? It sure as hell wasn't an inspirational show... There are wins to play for. Thank god people that think as you are not in control of the team or the lesson of not doing your very best, trying your very hardest to win would be destroyed. You are speaking like a fan. Not a dis, but not what the team truly needs.

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12-29-2015, 08:20 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by Danno No Yes 3 years (wrapped in a 5 year contract) More patient than me, Danno. I have told him and others exactly the same thing dozens of times over the past couple of years. Either they are too dense to understand or too distracted by their misguided thoughts to care. jnormand and ChrisXVI like this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by jeanpierre So we go another year with his cap number as is?!? Or do we extend? and for how long?!? If we must go into the season with a 30 million cap hit I would still do it. But, I would much rather extend him 2 more years. That gives us 3 more years which would take Brees to retirement with the passing yards record. If he is not worth his 3rd year then cut him. Eat the cap hit for 1 year. Our cap problems will be fixed by then. OldMaid likes this.
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12-30-2015, 02:16 PM	#28
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta I doubt we move into next year with him in a final year at a 30M hit. He currently has a $30M hit next year with $20M due in cash. He will likely want to stay around the salary range to be in the top paid QB guys. Make it a 3 year, $55M deal and translate the cap hit to $18.3M per year and bump some back end money into signing bonus to make it very attractive for him. We save cap money immediately while also reducing that positional cap money to a relatively league average for top QB's. Pretty much everyone else is in the 16-19M range for their QB and with the cap going up this can be manageable. OldMaid likes this.

12-30-2015, 09:07 PM	#29
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta tanking is never an option for me. Lets beat Dem Falcons. Cheers everybody. Its been a year. We, arent going anywhere. Neither is Payton. Neither is Brees. jnormand and hagan714 like this.

12-30-2015, 09:08 PM	#30
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Might as well crush Atlanta Originally Posted by Halo If it came down to crushing the clowns or losing and getting the 1st pick in the 1st round of the draft, I'd choose to crush the clowns and pick second in the draft!!! you are the man.

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