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by the way we played the last few games of the season it wouldn't surprise me to see us take a big leap next season

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What a hell of a way to kick off Carnival.
Happy Mardi Gras, New Orleans !


Who else is ready for Training Camp already?
-- Now Lets Lock Down Drew!
And Lets have the greatest off season season of Party Ever.

And when we get back to the Dome, Lets ROAR, and make it Tha Dome again.
Its gonna be scary in there. Just like '06.

WHOOOOOOOO DAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!

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Oh yes, unless of course you had posted the Phoebe Cates pool exit before.

Then this would be your 2nd best post ever.

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You had me at 'click generation'. :bng:

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Well I don't know if I've posted it, but I've surely seen it a few times...

Doesn't anybody knock anymore?

:roflmao:

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I might be the only one but I wanted him gone. He shopped himself (weather you believe it or not) around to multiple teams. If he thought about leaving I say go. I want a coach that wants to be here.

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If you watched that entire press conference and still came away thinking that, nothing said on this website will change your mind.

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You mean a Dallas Cowboy tittie bar?

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flexx91 says:
Jan 6, 2016 3:36 PM
Serves the idiot fans of other teams who slammed him during bounty gate but now thought he had an interest in becoming their coach.

Sean Payton: I’m not going anywhere | ProFootballTalk

best comment there...

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Of course the media whores at NFL.com are calling this a "shocking turn of events". They tried everything they could to make Payton leave.
Ha! Unlike the national media, Payton loves New Orleans, the ownership & the fans. Welcome home, Coach.

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I don't believe the "weather" had anything to do with it. ;)

But, you are crazy if you think he shopped himself around. No, not crazy. Stupid is more like it. It makes absolutely no sense. He couldn't go anywhere and have more power, more pay, more access to his kids and more affection from the fan base and ownership than New Orleans. What the heck would he have to gain? Nothing.

You said it yourself. You wanted him gone. Why? Sean Payton is far and away the best coach in Saints history and truly the only one that has ever really wanted to be here. You have no clue about what you are writing about.

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I'll admit I wanted him gone, but the more I thought About it and the closer it got to The end of the season I was thinking more n more who could replace Payton and that answer is no one ! glad he still the HC Who Dat

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Serious question here. Why would you have ever wanted the best coach ever in the 58 year history of the Saints gone? Seriously. What was your reasoning? Or were you just buying into the hype and not making your own informed decision. It is clear that when you truly thought about it you came to the right conclusion, but why did you ever think that in the first place?

Honestly wanting an answer to that question.

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Anyone wanting to know what life would be like if Payton left, look at the bucks. That would be us, a new coach every 2-3 years. No thanks.

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Tell me something i didn't allready know.

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@IanRapport Bucs interested in Saints HC Sean Payton.

/sarcasm on

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Link?

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I'm glad this is over with. Watching some people freak out about every little story was getting annoying.

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See how quiet the 'insiders' have got. Not one peep or piece now they've been proven liars and frauds

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I know your question is not directed at me, but I have to say that this "greatest coach in Saints history" is overplayed. When he won the Superbowl that's all it took to earn that distinction. We're talking about the Saints here.

If he doesn't win that Superbowl, then Jim Mora would still be the greatest in our history, because he won more consistently, and he was the FIRST to win here.

It still comes down to what have you done for me lately, even if that doesn't seem fair. I didn't want him fired this year, but I have been on record as saying that this organization needs to start moving back in the right direction soon, or it will be time for a change. Some coaches become stale in one place. Call it complacency, or maybe it's something about the environment they're in, that they get tired of. And some guys just get too old, but that one doesn't apply to Sean, obviously.

So you don't just hold onto a guy forever because of one great season and a couple of good one's. He's earned the right for more time. But after another season or two, if this thing is still moving backwards, then you have to accept reality. You can't be afraid of the past returning. If we keep losing, we'll have already returned.

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I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone.

How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name.

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I think Sean proved most of us wrong by playing Brees the last two games and getting two W's without getting Brees hurt. He finished well so you've got to give him credit and he seemed to have that light back in his eyes at the end of the press conference.

I know I was singing a different tune in the middle of the season and after the Redskins loss, but I think we may have made a good choice here; hopefully some of the rough patches are behind us.

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No one will likely ever know if he shopped himself or not, and that includes you. To call someone stupid for thinking Sean might have is a jerk move, and then your reasoning was even worse.

You think it would make no sense? In reading your posts, one might think he's a god to you. So if he's all that, why do you think he couldn't do better? Obviously he wanted to stay here, regardless of whether or not he explored other options, he ultimately decided to stay. But if he had wanted to go, why couldn't he get more? There are some hungry organizations out there, and if they think as highly of him as you do, then why wouldn't they do whatever they could to reel him in, if he wanted out?

Chip freaking Kelly had more power than Sean. He just doesn't know how to handle grown men. Why couldn't Sean get more power?

It's all a moot point now, because he stayed. But don't take that to mean he's married to us. You don't know what goes into his decision making more than anyone else, so please spare the insinuation that you do.

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Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up.

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This is whst I like about SP. He plays to win EVERY game. Winning breeds winning, and this is something that Payton understands.

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Take away the Super Bowl and Payton is still the best coach this team has ever had. Mora couldn't even win a playoff game let alone get us in more than 1. Payton has as many wins in less games.

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First of all, I doubt Payton wanted to leave and second I don't think the Saints even entertained the thought of letting him leave. Here are the NFL rules in plain English on coaches. While under contract there can't be any contact with another team. http://prostarcoaching.net/library/N...tact_Rules.pdf
This was all for splash from half ass so called reporters.

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I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong.

And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious.

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Terrible news. They should have cut Payton loose. I'm no NFL head coach but when I see the players line up in formation it's so obvious what the saints are gonna do. Payton's play calling caught the world by surprise in 2009 but now he is so transparent. If Brees would give back his money so we can really buy some decent players we would be in good shape. I would take coughlin in Nola easily.

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I know he didn't win a playoff game. But use a little perspective. Free agency, as it exists today, did not come about until 1992. That meant it was extremely difficult for the Saints to sign the top players. What would Sean's resume look like without Drew? We'll never know.

I don't even like Jim Mora, because of how he left, but the bottom line is that he took what was maybe the worst franchise in sports and made it into a team that was consistently winning or in the hunt.

From '87 to '93 he went 12-3, 10-6, 9-7, 8-8, 11-5, 12-4, and 8-8 before going 7-9 the next two years and quitting in the middle of '96.

That's extremely consistent for a team that grew in the shadow of all the old dynasties that used to rule the NFL. Those teams all had hall of fame QB's, like Sean does. Jim had nothing close to that.

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I don't disagree that Mora pulled us out of the dark ages and that it was a different time. But so did Payton from the Ditka/Haslett era. We were a team with no home poised to become a 2-14 laughing stock again with the wrong coach. Sure he hit it lucky on Drew but he also developed one of the best and most consistent offenses in the past 10 years.

It's apples to oranges but I will always argue anyone who claims Payton is an overrated coach. At the absolutely worst it's a tie between the 2.

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It was all over ESPN and NFL Radio that Payton was definitely leaving. It was mostly talk radio and TV hacks. They are the worst because any tiny verbalized thought quickly becomes fact because they are all too lazy to do their jobs and do a small bit of research.

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Thanks. You saved me the trouble of making the same response.

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No one said there was anything malicious. We actually agree on this subject. By saying that Payton was on his way out, or even considering leaving, was not a lie. It was simply a total lack of reporting on actual fact instead of stating as fact baseless speculation by blogging hacks.

Gullible fans then freak out and think the worst for no reason whatsoever. I repeat what I said earlier that it is stupidity to believe what you hear on talk radio and opinion pieces from many so-called insiders.

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Well let me be clear that I'm not calling Payton overrated. I do think he's the best coach in our history, but I don't hold him in as high esteem as others. I believe that sometimes things change and sour, for whatever reason, and the team fails because of it. In that event, I think you have to move on and let go of prior accomplishments.

That's my argument. But my opinion has held steady that Payton should have stayed for at least another year to see what he can do with these young players. It was good to see him show some life at the end of the season. I don't know where that fire has been, but I hope it stays lit, because he's an elite coach when he's into it. I didn't get the sense over the past couple of seasons that he was the same guy.

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Right, and that's what we should expect from them. When I say "definitely" leaving, I mean someone actually reporting that Sean has agreed to leave. This was just a case of people being convinced in their own minds that something was happening, because that gives them something to talk about. It's foolish, it should be embarrassing to them, but we know they don't care. So it surprised me to see the reaction on this board.

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With this I took issue at saying someone was stupid for believing Sean would want to leave. Simply because, as I said before, we don't really know. It's a business. He could have gotten more, maybe, maybe not.

Whatever happened, or didn't happen, he decided it was best to remain here. That's different from people going on national television and stirring the pot. People can have opinions, but reporting without knowing is irresponsible.

Yet, again, it wasn't as if these people were reporting a deal that never happened. This is why I don't really watch sports news, I just watch games.

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I kinda wish all the hand-wringing was on a different thread.

My personal feeling about Sean Payton's announcement is this:

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I respectfully have to disagree. We beat the Giants and they didn't have half the injuries we did. They didn't make the playoffs either. Much respect for Coughlin but I wouldn't take another coach in the world over Payton.