Re: Sean Stays
 

I know your question is not directed at me, but I have to say that this "greatest coach in Saints history" is overplayed. When he won the Superbowl that's all it took to earn that distinction. We're talking about the Saints here.

If he doesn't win that Superbowl, then Jim Mora would still be the greatest in our history, because he won more consistently, and he was the FIRST to win here.

It still comes down to what have you done for me lately, even if that doesn't seem fair. I didn't want him fired this year, but I have been on record as saying that this organization needs to start moving back in the right direction soon, or it will be time for a change. Some coaches become stale in one place. Call it complacency, or maybe it's something about the environment they're in, that they get tired of. And some guys just get too old, but that one doesn't apply to Sean, obviously.

So you don't just hold onto a guy forever because of one great season and a couple of good one's. He's earned the right for more time. But after another season or two, if this thing is still moving backwards, then you have to accept reality. You can't be afraid of the past returning. If we keep losing, we'll have already returned.

Re: Sean Stays
 

I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone.

How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name.

Re: Sean Stays
 

I think Sean proved most of us wrong by playing Brees the last two games and getting two W's without getting Brees hurt. He finished well so you've got to give him credit and he seemed to have that light back in his eyes at the end of the press conference.

I know I was singing a different tune in the middle of the season and after the Redskins loss, but I think we may have made a good choice here; hopefully some of the rough patches are behind us.

Re: Sean Stays
 

No one will likely ever know if he shopped himself or not, and that includes you. To call someone stupid for thinking Sean might have is a jerk move, and then your reasoning was even worse.

You think it would make no sense? In reading your posts, one might think he's a god to you. So if he's all that, why do you think he couldn't do better? Obviously he wanted to stay here, regardless of whether or not he explored other options, he ultimately decided to stay. But if he had wanted to go, why couldn't he get more? There are some hungry organizations out there, and if they think as highly of him as you do, then why wouldn't they do whatever they could to reel him in, if he wanted out?

Chip freaking Kelly had more power than Sean. He just doesn't know how to handle grown men. Why couldn't Sean get more power?

It's all a moot point now, because he stayed. But don't take that to mean he's married to us. You don't know what goes into his decision making more than anyone else, so please spare the insinuation that you do.

Re: Sean Stays
 

Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up.

Re: Sean Stays
 

This is whst I like about SP. He plays to win EVERY game. Winning breeds winning, and this is something that Payton understands.

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Re: Sean Stays
 

Take away the Super Bowl and Payton is still the best coach this team has ever had. Mora couldn't even win a playoff game let alone get us in more than 1. Payton has as many wins in less games.

Re: Sean Stays
 

First of all, I doubt Payton wanted to leave and second I don't think the Saints even entertained the thought of letting him leave. Here are the NFL rules in plain English on coaches. While under contract there can't be any contact with another team. http://prostarcoaching.net/library/N...tact_Rules.pdf
This was all for splash from half ass so called reporters.

Re: Sean Stays
 

I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong.

And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious.

Re: Sean Stays
 

Terrible news. They should have cut Payton loose. I'm no NFL head coach but when I see the players line up in formation it's so obvious what the saints are gonna do. Payton's play calling caught the world by surprise in 2009 but now he is so transparent. If Brees would give back his money so we can really buy some decent players we would be in good shape. I would take coughlin in Nola easily.