Sean Stays

Halo · 01-06-2016, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

@IanRapport Bucs interested in Saints HC Sean Payton.

Link?

burningmetal · 01-07-2016, 06:37 AM

I'm glad this is over with. Watching some people freak out about every little story was getting annoying.

lee909 · 01-07-2016, 06:44 AM

See how quiet the 'insiders' have got. Not one peep or piece now they've been proven liars and frauds

burningmetal · 01-07-2016, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

See how quiet the 'insiders' have got. Not one peep or piece now they've been proven liars and frauds

I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone.

How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name.

SaintsBro · 01-07-2016, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone.

Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up.

burningmetal · 01-07-2016, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up.

I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong.

And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious.

AsylumGuido · 01-07-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong.

And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious.

No one said there was anything malicious. We actually agree on this subject. By saying that Payton was on his way out, or even considering leaving, was not a lie. It was simply a total lack of reporting on actual fact instead of stating as fact baseless speculation by blogging hacks.

Gullible fans then freak out and think the worst for no reason whatsoever. I repeat what I said earlier that it is stupidity to believe what you hear on talk radio and opinion pieces from many so-called insiders.

AsylumGuido · 01-07-2016, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone.

How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name.

It was all over ESPN and NFL Radio that Payton was definitely leaving. It was mostly talk radio and TV hacks. They are the worst because any tiny verbalized thought quickly becomes fact because they are all too lazy to do their jobs and do a small bit of research.

burningmetal · 01-08-2016, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It was all over ESPN and NFL Radio that Payton was definitely leaving. It was mostly talk radio and TV hacks. They are the worst because any tiny verbalized thought quickly becomes fact because they are all too lazy to do their jobs and do a small bit of research.

Right, and that's what we should expect from them. When I say "definitely" leaving, I mean someone actually reporting that Sean has agreed to leave. This was just a case of people being convinced in their own minds that something was happening, because that gives them something to talk about. It's foolish, it should be embarrassing to them, but we know they don't care. So it surprised me to see the reaction on this board.

neugey · 01-07-2016, 07:13 AM

I think Sean proved most of us wrong by playing Brees the last two games and getting two W's without getting Brees hurt. He finished well so you've got to give him credit and he seemed to have that light back in his eyes at the end of the press conference.

I know I was singing a different tune in the middle of the season and after the Redskins loss, but I think we may have made a good choice here; hopefully some of the rough patches are behind us.

01-06-2016, 11:19 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,902 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by SmashMouth @IanRapport Bucs interested in Saints HC Sean Payton. Link?

01-07-2016, 06:37 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Stays I'm glad this is over with. Watching some people freak out about every little story was getting annoying.

01-07-2016, 06:44 AM	#3
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Stays See how quiet the 'insiders' have got. Not one peep or piece now they've been proven liars and frauds

01-07-2016, 07:01 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by lee909 See how quiet the 'insiders' have got. Not one peep or piece now they've been proven liars and frauds I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone. How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-07-2016, 08:14 AM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by burningmetal There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone. Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up.

01-07-2016, 09:43 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by SaintsBro Not trying to be a jerk, or start a big argument, but actually -- Fletcher Mackel of WDSU did predict Payton was going to be gone, on more than one occasion. He almost seemed to revel in it, like he couldn't wait for the sky to fall and bad news to happen to the team. He also proclaimed it was "the end of an era of Saints football" and predicted the end of Drew's career, when Brees missed one game. These are quotes from him, I'm not making this up. I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong. And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-07-2016, 05:17 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't doubt what you're saying about Fletcher Mackel, and actually I think I remember that. But there again, you said "predicted". That's what I'm talking about. There are trolls who want to make statements, with nothing to go on, but they are just giving their opinion. They aren't lying. They're just wrong. And then there are reports that actually claim there are negotiations going on. But no one is saying it's a done deal. That's why I'm not all worked up about it. It's just an overreaction by the media, but not anything I deem as malicious. No one said there was anything malicious. We actually agree on this subject. By saying that Payton was on his way out, or even considering leaving, was not a lie. It was simply a total lack of reporting on actual fact instead of stating as fact baseless speculation by blogging hacks. Gullible fans then freak out and think the worst for no reason whatsoever. I repeat what I said earlier that it is stupidity to believe what you hear on talk radio and opinion pieces from many so-called insiders. RaginCajun83 likes this.

01-07-2016, 05:05 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm starting to feel like a broken record when it comes to this subject. But I keep wondering why people are saying this. Don't get me wrong, I know the media likes to troll a lot. But who ever said that Sean was leaving? There was talk about possibilities of leaving but no one said he was absolutely gone. How are we going to know what was really going on? We know that he isn't leaving, but what else? I'm just particularly confused over the outrage with this situation, because I never saw any report saying he was definitely leaving. So how were we lied to? To me, all this scuttlebutt is normal for a coach like Payton after a couple bad seasons. There's going to be talk. If it were Mike Smith, no one would care because he's not a hot name. It was all over ESPN and NFL Radio that Payton was definitely leaving. It was mostly talk radio and TV hacks. They are the worst because any tiny verbalized thought quickly becomes fact because they are all too lazy to do their jobs and do a small bit of research.

01-08-2016, 08:54 AM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Stays Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It was all over ESPN and NFL Radio that Payton was definitely leaving. It was mostly talk radio and TV hacks. They are the worst because any tiny verbalized thought quickly becomes fact because they are all too lazy to do their jobs and do a small bit of research. Right, and that's what we should expect from them. When I say "definitely" leaving, I mean someone actually reporting that Sean has agreed to leave. This was just a case of people being convinced in their own minds that something was happening, because that gives them something to talk about. It's foolish, it should be embarrassing to them, but we know they don't care. So it surprised me to see the reaction on this board.

01-07-2016, 07:13 AM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,877 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Sean Stays I think Sean proved most of us wrong by playing Brees the last two games and getting two W's without getting Brees hurt. He finished well so you've got to give him credit and he seemed to have that light back in his eyes at the end of the press conference. I know I was singing a different tune in the middle of the season and after the Redskins loss, but I think we may have made a good choice here; hopefully some of the rough patches are behind us. 44Champs and Saint in Aus like this.

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