Originally Posted by skymike (Post 689543)

I kinda wish all the hand-wringing was on a different thread.

My personal feeling about Sean Payton's announcement is this:

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 688904)

I know your question is not directed at me, but I have to say that this "greatest coach in Saints history" is overplayed. When he won the Superbowl that's all it took to earn that distinction. We're talking about the Saints here.

If he doesn't win that Superbowl, then Jim Mora would still be the greatest in our history, because he won more consistently, and he was the FIRST to win here.

It still comes down to what have you done for me lately, even if that doesn't seem fair. I didn't want him fired this year, but I have been on record as saying that this organization needs to start moving back in the right direction soon, or it will be time for a change. Some coaches become stale in one place. Call it complacency, or maybe it's something about the environment they're in, that they get tired of. And some guys just get too old, but that one doesn't apply to Sean, obviously.

So you don't just hold onto a guy forever because of one great season and a couple of good one's. He's earned the right for more time. But after another season or two, if this thing is still moving backwards, then you have to accept reality. You can't be afraid of the past returning. If we keep losing, we'll have already returned.

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 689845)

Unfortunately some people aren't happy unless they **** on someone's parade

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 690079)

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