2016 Saints Free Agency

halloween 65 · 01-31-2016, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Idk I don't trust what we have against elite defenses. I feel the receivers have played scared and only show up against softer defenses or division rivals. Snead has 1000 yards but he hasn't been consistent. Snead has 6 TDs this year and half of them were against Jacksonville and NYG combined. Coleman's also failed to score more than 2 TDs all season. These guys were not stepping up enough in the redzone.

I can agree with that to a point but a better run game could help us out in the red zone. No one respected our run game. A OG and TE could be the ticket to opening everything up. I do worry about Coleman more than Snead stepping up. Coleman is still my wild-card on the O this is where I got to believe in Paytons judgement wheather right or wrong. He has put together some fine O's, it's the D he lets take the field that scares the hell out of me.

hagan714 · 01-31-2016, 08:50 AM

OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out.

OG Alex Boone? Stop gap measure? Evan Mathis or Richie Incognito?
OG/C Stefen Wisniewski, Jacksonville Jaguars
DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams
DE Jaye Howard KC

WR Anquan Boldin San Fransico?
TE Ladarius Green, San Diego Chargers

jeanpierre · 02-01-2016, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out.

OG Alex Boone? Stop gap measure? Evan Mathis or Richie Incognito?
OG/C Stefen Wisniewski, Jacksonville Jaguars
DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams
DE Jaye Howard KC

WR Anquan Boldin San Fransico?
TE Ladarius Green, San Diego Chargers

IF Boone is healthy, maybe, but with limited salary cap space, we've got to get a NT that can shut it down and a linebacker that can play more than six games a year...

I'm really surprised you listed Fairley, he'll be suspended for dope by Week 4...

K Major · 02-01-2016, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out.

DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams

I could see him taking a 4 yr deal @ 5M. Kind of steep for a inconsistent player however I'd take Fairley over any rookie DT in the upcoming draft.

jeanpierre · 01-31-2016, 03:41 PM

From the sampling we've got a Coleman, especially his porous catching, I wouldn't bank on him...

We do need another big red zone, third down target as Colston's age has caught up with him; until that person is on the roster, Colston's cap number is really not that bad...

Now, it'd be nice to restructure Colston for two more years, 2016 and 2017, that way you've got a leader in the corps to keep the young guns on track...

Problem is that there really is no quality free agent top of the depth chart wide receiver available, that's why I think we're spending one of our higher draft picks on a wide receiver...

ChrisXVI · 01-31-2016, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Problem is that there really is no quality free agent top of the depth chart wide receiver available, that's why I think we're spending one of our higher draft picks on a wide receiver...

Even if there were big-name starting WR's available we wouldn't be signing any of them. I've been beating this drum for a long time: we DON'T sign those free agent WR's. We draft or develop undrafted FA's.

WillSaints81 · 01-31-2016, 04:47 PM

At some point Payton's got to do something different. With more NFL ready receivers in college, it's not as easy to get undrafted FA receivers. I do not think Treadwell will be available when we pick. And I don't want Boldin, he's older now just like Colston and we don't need to copy what Indy did getting Johnson, which blew up in their face.

Defenses did not respect our run game because they knew from all the press that saints were gonna run more. They focused on stopping the running game, and forced Brees to beat them. They even saw how the passing game looked in certain games and stacked the box on every first down.

There is one thing I am curious about and I will start it in another thread.

lee909 · 02-01-2016, 07:41 AM

Just read a list on cheaper free agents. Might be worth a look

Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers

Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers
San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ian Williams became a 16-game starter for the first time in his five-year NFL career this past season, and he certainly made the most of his opportunity.

The Notre Dame product racked up 65 tackles, 1.0 sacks, one pass defended and a forced fumble. Pro Football Focus rated him ninth overall among all defensive tackles for the season.

At 6'1" and 305 pounds, Williams possesses the heavy, compact frame that teams traditionally look for in an anchor nose tackle. His play in 2015 proved that Williams has the skills to excel as a regular starter. However, he isn't likely to command the attention given to other pending free agents at the position.

Other defensive tackles scheduled to hit the open market include the Detroit Lions' Haloti Ngata, the St. Louis Rams' Nick Fairley, Terrance Knighton of the Washington Redskins and the Green Bay Packers' B.J. Raji.

Williams will rightfully deserve some sort of raise in his next contract, as his 2015 base salary was a mere $1 million. However, the one-time undrafted free agent has worked his way up the NFL ranks, is just 26 years old and could potentially anchor a defensive front for several more years.

He ultimately should prove to be a bargain.

jeanpierre · 02-02-2016, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Just read a list on cheaper free agents. Might be worth a look

Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers

Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers
San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ian Williams became a 16-game starter for the first time in his five-year NFL career this past season, and he certainly made the most of his opportunity.

The Notre Dame product racked up 65 tackles, 1.0 sacks, one pass defended and a forced fumble. Pro Football Focus rated him ninth overall among all defensive tackles for the season.

At 6'1" and 305 pounds, Williams possesses the heavy, compact frame that teams traditionally look for in an anchor nose tackle. His play in 2015 proved that Williams has the skills to excel as a regular starter. However, he isn't likely to command the attention given to other pending free agents at the position.

Other defensive tackles scheduled to hit the open market include the Detroit Lions' Haloti Ngata, the St. Louis Rams' Nick Fairley, Terrance Knighton of the Washington Redskins and the Green Bay Packers' B.J. Raji.

Williams will rightfully deserve some sort of raise in his next contract, as his 2015 base salary was a mere $1 million. However, the one-time undrafted free agent has worked his way up the NFL ranks, is just 26 years old and could potentially anchor a defensive front for several more years.

He ultimately should prove to be a bargain.

One issue I had with Williams was injury history, but he seemed to be fine after an ankle injury from a dirty cut-block in a game against the S'hawks...

It'd be an interesting comparison of Damon Harrison vs Ian Williams; still think Harrison is the great unsung hero on that Jets gang green defensive line and would be awesome in black and gold...

jeanpierre · 02-02-2016, 09:48 PM

New Orleans Saints sign former Northwestern wide receiver Kyle Prater to reserve-future contract - Inside NU

Now this signing intrigues the hell outta me...

01-31-2016, 08:14 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Idk I don't trust what we have against elite defenses. I feel the receivers have played scared and only show up against softer defenses or division rivals. Snead has 1000 yards but he hasn't been consistent. Snead has 6 TDs this year and half of them were against Jacksonville and NYG combined. Coleman's also failed to score more than 2 TDs all season. These guys were not stepping up enough in the redzone. I can agree with that to a point but a better run game could help us out in the red zone. No one respected our run game. A OG and TE could be the ticket to opening everything up. I do worry about Coleman more than Snead stepping up. Coleman is still my wild-card on the O this is where I got to believe in Paytons judgement wheather right or wrong. He has put together some fine O's, it's the D he lets take the field that scares the hell out of me.

01-31-2016, 08:50 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out. OG Alex Boone? Stop gap measure? Evan Mathis or Richie Incognito? OG/C Stefen Wisniewski, Jacksonville Jaguars DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams DE Jaye Howard KC WR Anquan Boldin San Fransico? TE Ladarius Green, San Diego Chargers

02-01-2016, 06:53 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out. OG Alex Boone? Stop gap measure? Evan Mathis or Richie Incognito? OG/C Stefen Wisniewski, Jacksonville Jaguars DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams DE Jaye Howard KC WR Anquan Boldin San Fransico? TE Ladarius Green, San Diego Chargers IF Boone is healthy, maybe, but with limited salary cap space, we've got to get a NT that can shut it down and a linebacker that can play more than six games a year... I'm really surprised you listed Fairley, he'll be suspended for dope by Week 4...

02-01-2016, 07:35 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 OL and DL is were it is at. the rest will work itself out. DT Nick Fairley, St. Louis Rams I could see him taking a 4 yr deal @ 5M. Kind of steep for a inconsistent player however I'd take Fairley over any rookie DT in the upcoming draft.

01-31-2016, 03:41 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency From the sampling we've got a Coleman, especially his porous catching, I wouldn't bank on him... We do need another big red zone, third down target as Colston's age has caught up with him; until that person is on the roster, Colston's cap number is really not that bad... Now, it'd be nice to restructure Colston for two more years, 2016 and 2017, that way you've got a leader in the corps to keep the young guns on track... Problem is that there really is no quality free agent top of the depth chart wide receiver available, that's why I think we're spending one of our higher draft picks on a wide receiver...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

01-31-2016, 04:05 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre Problem is that there really is no quality free agent top of the depth chart wide receiver available, that's why I think we're spending one of our higher draft picks on a wide receiver... Even if there were big-name starting WR's available we wouldn't be signing any of them. I've been beating this drum for a long time: we DON'T sign those free agent WR's. We draft or develop undrafted FA's.

01-31-2016, 04:47 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency At some point Payton's got to do something different. With more NFL ready receivers in college, it's not as easy to get undrafted FA receivers. I do not think Treadwell will be available when we pick. And I don't want Boldin, he's older now just like Colston and we don't need to copy what Indy did getting Johnson, which blew up in their face. Defenses did not respect our run game because they knew from all the press that saints were gonna run more. They focused on stopping the running game, and forced Brees to beat them. They even saw how the passing game looked in certain games and stacked the box on every first down. There is one thing I am curious about and I will start it in another thread.

02-01-2016, 07:41 AM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Just read a list on cheaper free agents. Might be worth a look Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ian Williams became a 16-game starter for the first time in his five-year NFL career this past season, and he certainly made the most of his opportunity. The Notre Dame product racked up 65 tackles, 1.0 sacks, one pass defended and a forced fumble. Pro Football Focus rated him ninth overall among all defensive tackles for the season. At 6'1" and 305 pounds, Williams possesses the heavy, compact frame that teams traditionally look for in an anchor nose tackle. His play in 2015 proved that Williams has the skills to excel as a regular starter. However, he isn't likely to command the attention given to other pending free agents at the position. Other defensive tackles scheduled to hit the open market include the Detroit Lions' Haloti Ngata, the St. Louis Rams' Nick Fairley, Terrance Knighton of the Washington Redskins and the Green Bay Packers' B.J. Raji. Williams will rightfully deserve some sort of raise in his next contract, as his 2015 base salary was a mere $1 million. However, the one-time undrafted free agent has worked his way up the NFL ranks, is just 26 years old and could potentially anchor a defensive front for several more years. He ultimately should prove to be a bargain. hagan714, mleg1972, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.
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02-02-2016, 07:28 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by lee909 Just read a list on cheaper free agents. Might be worth a look Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers Ian Williams, DT, San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ian Williams became a 16-game starter for the first time in his five-year NFL career this past season, and he certainly made the most of his opportunity. The Notre Dame product racked up 65 tackles, 1.0 sacks, one pass defended and a forced fumble. Pro Football Focus rated him ninth overall among all defensive tackles for the season. At 6'1" and 305 pounds, Williams possesses the heavy, compact frame that teams traditionally look for in an anchor nose tackle. His play in 2015 proved that Williams has the skills to excel as a regular starter. However, he isn't likely to command the attention given to other pending free agents at the position. Other defensive tackles scheduled to hit the open market include the Detroit Lions' Haloti Ngata, the St. Louis Rams' Nick Fairley, Terrance Knighton of the Washington Redskins and the Green Bay Packers' B.J. Raji. Williams will rightfully deserve some sort of raise in his next contract, as his 2015 base salary was a mere $1 million. However, the one-time undrafted free agent has worked his way up the NFL ranks, is just 26 years old and could potentially anchor a defensive front for several more years. He ultimately should prove to be a bargain. One issue I had with Williams was injury history, but he seemed to be fine after an ankle injury from a dirty cut-block in a game against the S'hawks... It'd be an interesting comparison of Damon Harrison vs Ian Williams; still think Harrison is the great unsung hero on that Jets gang green defensive line and would be awesome in black and gold...

02-02-2016, 09:48 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency New Orleans Saints sign former Northwestern wide receiver Kyle Prater to reserve-future contract - Inside NU Now this signing intrigues the hell outta me... hagan714 likes this.

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