2016 Saints Free Agency

hagan714 · 01-10-2016, 09:03 AM

The blame for this mess rests with Rob Ryan, These are the players he wanted. He got rid of the players he did not want. So sticking with 34 seems like long long road to rebuilding an average defense. 43 appears to be the answer with the roster, draft and lack of cap money. Just fielding a competitive 43 defense is with reach for 2016.

Safety is a position were a ton of money was spent and nothing has been done to maximize that investment. So I hope they address the option in the back end at safety and get a player that helps maximize Byrd investment. KV is not a complimentary safety to Byrd.

OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge

After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks.

Like I said it will take time to clean up this mess Rob put together either way.

By the end of round 3 in the draft we should have an idea what the saints are going to do. great if the first pick in the draft answers our question.

I still believe either way we go the saints can field a defense next year that is competitive with Rob out of picture with little trouble.

Pick for 2017 baby ......2017

K Major · 01-10-2016, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge

After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks.

I second that. Finding a OLB who can cover TE's has to be a huge priority this off season.

Yes sir. Did you notice NT -POE yesterday for KC? Man this guy can really clog up the middle. Made the Texans one dimensional ... if we can do a better job in this area, we can win most of the battles.

Continue to build a solid foundation through the draft.

Seer1 · 01-10-2016, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The blame for this mess rests with Rob Ryan, These are the players he wanted. He got rid of the players he did not want. So sticking with 34 seems like long long road to rebuilding an average defense. 43 appears to be the answer with the roster, draft and lack of cap money. Just fielding a competitive 43 defense is with reach for 2016.

Safety is a position were a ton of money was spent and nothing has been done to maximize that investment. So I hope they address the option in the back end at safety and get a player that helps maximize Byrd investment. KV is not a complimentary safety to Byrd.

OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge

After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks.

Like I said it will take time to clean up this mess Rob put together either way.

By the end of round 3 in the draft we should have an idea what the saints are going to do. great if the first pick in the draft answers our question.

I still believe either way we go the saints can field a defense next year that is competitive with Rob out of picture with little trouble.

Pick for 2017 baby ......2017

I don't know about that Hagan. Ultimately, wasn't it Sean and Loomis who signed off on who stayed and who went? Hell, with that thought, wasn't it Sean and Loomis who signed off on Rob himself while he'd been saying two years in a row, "I need to simplify the defense"? (After saying the same thing while coaching that other team?)

I do agree with you that we have some decent talent out there if we can bring in some folks who can figure out what to do with it. However, it will take more than just getting Ryan out of there. He needs a quality replacement. We have some other coaching positions in desperate need of upgrading too.

Rugby Saint II · 01-10-2016, 11:21 AM

I see another large roster purge this off season. Fresh faces for a fresh start.

jeanpierre · 01-10-2016, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I see another large roster purge this off season. Fresh faces for a fresh start.

And that might not be a bad thing for Payton...

New faces means his 'message', methods won't be stale and that's keeps it fresh for him as well...

jeanpierre · 01-11-2016, 09:26 AM

Some top free agents, I'd like to see the front office take a strong look at...

DE Muhammad Wilkerson

NT Damon Harrison

ILB Danny Trevathan

G Alex Boone (IR)

G Ryan Wendell

ILB Brandon Marshall

NT Terrance Knighton

S Eric Weddle (if we could wiggle free from Byrd)

TE Joseph Fauria

TE Craig Stevens

TE Ben Watson (know I gripe about age, but we've got to bring this guy and his back)

lee909 · 01-11-2016, 09:57 AM

Man id love to see Wilkerson on the line. Mans a game changer

saintsfan1976 · 01-11-2016, 07:09 PM

Been waiting for this from you JP. Thanks for posting.

Hagan, if we're talking basement, we should kick the tires on Cameron Wake.

NOLA54 · 01-11-2016, 10:20 PM

R E L A X!

K Major · 01-11-2016, 11:31 PM

Rolando McClain?

01-10-2016, 09:03 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency The blame for this mess rests with Rob Ryan, These are the players he wanted. He got rid of the players he did not want. So sticking with 34 seems like long long road to rebuilding an average defense. 43 appears to be the answer with the roster, draft and lack of cap money. Just fielding a competitive 43 defense is with reach for 2016. Safety is a position were a ton of money was spent and nothing has been done to maximize that investment. So I hope they address the option in the back end at safety and get a player that helps maximize Byrd investment. KV is not a complimentary safety to Byrd. OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks. Like I said it will take time to clean up this mess Rob put together either way. By the end of round 3 in the draft we should have an idea what the saints are going to do. great if the first pick in the draft answers our question. I still believe either way we go the saints can field a defense next year that is competitive with Rob out of picture with little trouble. Pick for 2017 baby ......2017
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01-10-2016, 09:58 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks. I second that. Finding a OLB who can cover TE's has to be a huge priority this off season. Yes sir. Did you notice NT -POE yesterday for KC? Man this guy can really clog up the middle. Made the Texans one dimensional ... if we can do a better job in this area, we can win most of the battles. Continue to build a solid foundation through the draft. MarchingOn likes this.

01-10-2016, 10:35 AM	#3
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 The blame for this mess rests with Rob Ryan, These are the players he wanted. He got rid of the players he did not want. So sticking with 34 seems like long long road to rebuilding an average defense. 43 appears to be the answer with the roster, draft and lack of cap money. Just fielding a competitive 43 defense is with reach for 2016. Safety is a position were a ton of money was spent and nothing has been done to maximize that investment. So I hope they address the option in the back end at safety and get a player that helps maximize Byrd investment. KV is not a complimentary safety to Byrd. OLB that can run the edges and cover is huge After that a CB that can tackle, A DT/NT that does little more than eat up space. DE? just keep adding quality of depth this year. Setting the edge against the run must out weigh the desire for sacks. Like I said it will take time to clean up this mess Rob put together either way. By the end of round 3 in the draft we should have an idea what the saints are going to do. great if the first pick in the draft answers our question. I still believe either way we go the saints can field a defense next year that is competitive with Rob out of picture with little trouble. Pick for 2017 baby ......2017 I don't know about that Hagan. Ultimately, wasn't it Sean and Loomis who signed off on who stayed and who went? Hell, with that thought, wasn't it Sean and Loomis who signed off on Rob himself while he'd been saying two years in a row, "I need to simplify the defense"? (After saying the same thing while coaching that other team?) I do agree with you that we have some decent talent out there if we can bring in some folks who can figure out what to do with it. However, it will take more than just getting Ryan out of there. He needs a quality replacement. We have some other coaching positions in desperate need of upgrading too. jeanpierre likes this.
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01-10-2016, 11:21 AM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency I see another large roster purge this off season. Fresh faces for a fresh start.

01-10-2016, 03:01 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I see another large roster purge this off season. Fresh faces for a fresh start. And that might not be a bad thing for Payton... New faces means his 'message', methods won't be stale and that's keeps it fresh for him as well... ctsaint01 likes this.

01-11-2016, 09:26 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Some top free agents, I'd like to see the front office take a strong look at... DE Muhammad Wilkerson NT Damon Harrison ILB Danny Trevathan G Alex Boone (IR) G Ryan Wendell ILB Brandon Marshall NT Terrance Knighton S Eric Weddle (if we could wiggle free from Byrd) TE Joseph Fauria TE Craig Stevens TE Ben Watson (know I gripe about age, but we've got to bring this guy and his back) halloween 65 likes this.
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01-11-2016, 09:57 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Man id love to see Wilkerson on the line. Mans a game changer jeanpierre and dizzle88 like this.

01-11-2016, 07:09 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 Saints Free Agency Been waiting for this from you JP. Thanks for posting. Hagan, if we're talking basement, we should kick the tires on Cameron Wake. jeanpierre and ctsaint01 like this.

01-11-2016, 10:20 PM	#9
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