Saints 2016 Coaching Staff

dizzle88 · 01-21-2016, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him

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I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here.

CharityMike · 01-21-2016, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here.

Payton has already said that was the one that got away. Said he regretted not giving him more time.

hagan714 · 01-22-2016, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him

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That was a tough one. laundry list of injuries and the success for some of those injuries were not the greatest back then. past few years it seems rebuilding a person has gotten a whole lot better.

Rob we messed up on but it was a 70/30? that he would bounce back. just guessing. move did not look risky at all back then. it actually made sense for the most part. but no one under estimated the player he was. the question was could he return and what would his longevity be.

rolled the dice and crapped out

Danno · 01-11-2016, 08:01 AM

Fuita's best years were here, in fact I'd say he got better as a Saint. Cassillas was the same player here as he was with the Rams. Shanle was better here than in Dallas

jeanpierre · 01-11-2016, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fuita's best years were here, in fact I'd say he got better as a Saint. Cassillas was the same player here as he was with the Rams. Shanle was better here than in Dallas

Don't know 'bout that as Fujita and that Browns team had a good couple of years - their offense just sucked unless they played the Saints...

Think you may mean J Dunbar as Casillas plays for the G'nats and is doing really well...

Jonathan Casillas, OLB for the New York Giants at NFL.com

Agree with you on another post that Shanle too waay took much flack, he played all out with his physical talents and mistakes were often because the strong safety (Bama41) was slow to pick up 'exchanges' in coverage...

SapperSaint · 01-11-2016, 08:29 AM

Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills.

jeanpierre · 01-11-2016, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills.

Buffalo Wings and Crawfish, the overt nepotism in this league never ceases to amaze...

How long till Sexy Rexy punches Rob-boy on the sidelines...

hagan714 · 01-11-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills.

Rex will teach Rob what defense lol

Rex will keep Rob on a short leash. Rob will have little say in player moves also.

Rob is in the perfect place, under his big brothers thumb.

K Major · 01-11-2016, 09:40 AM

Just my opinion guys ...

The entire defensive staff needs to be gutted. Look at a younger position coach that comes from a solid, aggressive system (Broncos, Seahags, Jets). No need to call guys who are retreads with complicated schemes.

Specifically on defense, our non blitzing/passive schemes we ran with Spaggs & Rob aren't working. We need to blitz a LOT, even if we get burned a time or two.

I'm all in on the youth movement with players and coaches as well. We need new faces, fresh ideas to compete in 2016.

CharityMike · 01-11-2016, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Just my opinion guys ...

The entire defensive staff needs to be gutted. Look at a younger position coach that comes from a solid, aggressive system (Broncos, Seahags, Jets). No need to call guys who are retreads with complicated schemes.

Specifically on defense, our non blitzing/passive schemes we ran with Spaggs & Rob aren't working. We need to blitz a LOT, even if we get burned a time or two.

I'm all in on the youth movement with players and coaches as well. We need new faces, fresh ideas to compete in 2016.

I agree except I am ok with keeping and giving DA a chance.

01-21-2016, 09:03 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by 44Champs The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here.

01-21-2016, 10:15 AM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here. Payton has already said that was the one that got away. Said he regretted not giving him more time. hagan714 likes this.

01-22-2016, 08:17 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by 44Champs The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk That was a tough one. laundry list of injuries and the success for some of those injuries were not the greatest back then. past few years it seems rebuilding a person has gotten a whole lot better. Rob we messed up on but it was a 70/30? that he would bounce back. just guessing. move did not look risky at all back then. it actually made sense for the most part. but no one under estimated the player he was. the question was could he return and what would his longevity be. rolled the dice and crapped out

01-11-2016, 08:01 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Fuita's best years were here, in fact I'd say he got better as a Saint. Cassillas was the same player here as he was with the Rams. Shanle was better here than in Dallas jnormand likes this.

01-11-2016, 09:33 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Danno Fuita's best years were here, in fact I'd say he got better as a Saint. Cassillas was the same player here as he was with the Rams. Shanle was better here than in Dallas Don't know 'bout that as Fujita and that Browns team had a good couple of years - their offense just sucked unless they played the Saints... Think you may mean J Dunbar as Casillas plays for the G'nats and is doing really well... Jonathan Casillas, OLB for the New York Giants at NFL.com Agree with you on another post that Shanle too waay took much flack, he played all out with his physical talents and mistakes were often because the strong safety (Bama41) was slow to pick up 'exchanges' in coverage...

01-11-2016, 08:29 AM	#6
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills. jnormand likes this.

01-11-2016, 09:38 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by SapperSaint Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills. Buffalo Wings and Crawfish, the overt nepotism in this league never ceases to amaze... How long till Sexy Rexy punches Rob-boy on the sidelines... SapperSaint likes this.

01-11-2016, 09:39 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by SapperSaint Speaking of coaching moves; Rex Ryan has hired his brother at assistant coach and DC for the Bills. Rex will teach Rob what defense lol Rex will keep Rob on a short leash. Rob will have little say in player moves also. Rob is in the perfect place, under his big brothers thumb. jnormand and SapperSaint like this.

01-11-2016, 09:40 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Just my opinion guys ... The entire defensive staff needs to be gutted. Look at a younger position coach that comes from a solid, aggressive system (Broncos, Seahags, Jets). No need to call guys who are retreads with complicated schemes. Specifically on defense, our non blitzing/passive schemes we ran with Spaggs & Rob aren't working. We need to blitz a LOT, even if we get burned a time or two. I'm all in on the youth movement with players and coaches as well. We need new faces, fresh ideas to compete in 2016. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-11-2016, 10:08 AM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by K Major Just my opinion guys ... The entire defensive staff needs to be gutted. Look at a younger position coach that comes from a solid, aggressive system (Broncos, Seahags, Jets). No need to call guys who are retreads with complicated schemes. Specifically on defense, our non blitzing/passive schemes we ran with Spaggs & Rob aren't working. We need to blitz a LOT, even if we get burned a time or two. I'm all in on the youth movement with players and coaches as well. We need new faces, fresh ideas to compete in 2016. I agree except I am ok with keeping and giving DA a chance.

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