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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Seer1 Sorry, Young is not a new face... And consider who taught him. Ok, what has he done good or bad? Was it Vitt? Was it lack of talent? Was it the DCs scheme? How much power ...

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Old 01-10-2016, 06:31 PM   #1
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Sorry, Young is not a new face... And consider who taught him.
Ok, what has he done good or bad? Was it Vitt? Was it lack of talent? Was it the DCs scheme? How much power did he have?

The truth is that none of us know who's at fault at all.

And still to this day no one can name one single LB that got better after leaving, or a single free agent LB that got worse when they came here.
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And still to this day no one can name one single LB that got better after leaving.
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To be fair; he was good for his rookie preseason; 3 sacks I believe... Injured on September 25th and waived before he ever saw the field again.

It's hard to say if he got better, because he was pretty damn good before he was injured...

Signed again in '08 from the Dolphins because we were looking at him to be a long snapper, released when a better option was found.
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To be fair; he was good for his rookie preseason; 3 sacks I believe... Injured on September 25th and waived before he ever saw the field again.

It's hard to say if he got better, because he was pretty damn good before he was injured...

Signed again in '08 from the Dolphins because we were looking at him to be a long snapper, released when a better option was found.
You are correct but since he said no one can name one, I couldn't resist.
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And still to this day no one can name one single LB that got better after leaving, or a single free agent LB that got worse when they came here.
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I'd also add Fujita came in and looked like a world beater with the Browns...

...the Browns...

And Jonathan Casillas found a starting gig...

...it's happened...

And I'd agree with the previous post that having hired Willis (Inside Linebackers) and assigning Brian Young (Outside Linebackers) this past offseason at least shows the organization acknowledges those areas were worefully underperforming...

Now to address two other areas, the indefensible defensive line and that porous offensive line...
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I'd also add Fujita came in and looked like a world beater with the Browns...

...the Browns...

And Jonathan Casillas found a starting gig...

...it's happened...

And I'd agree with the previous post that having hired Willis (Inside Linebackers) and assigning Brian Young (Outside Linebackers) this past offseason at least shows the organization acknowledges those areas were worefully underperforming...

Now to address two other areas, the indefensible defensive line and that porous offensive line...
You could add Dun-bar to the list.

There is no doubt we have not added (through FA or the draft) very much talent to the position in the past, however what value does Vitt add?

Does letting Vitt go (he will be joining his son this year) add value to the team? My opinion is yes, but no one knows for sure until he's gone.
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You could add Dun-bar to the list.

There is no doubt we have not added (through FA or the draft) very much talent to the position in the past, however what value does Vitt add?

Does letting Vitt go (he will be joining his son this year) add value to the team? My opinion is yes, but no one knows for sure until he's gone.
Until last year's draft, we've not added a linebacker of note unless it came through free agency...

Perhaps with Ireland in tow along with new specialized coaches in Willis and Young, we'll see an improvement...

Vitt had been Payton's enforcer on the staff...

Now with Payton clearly in charge of the franchise, that role may be reduced that Vitt can move on and join his son-in-law, Adam Gase, in Miami...
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And still to this day no one can name one single LB that got better after leaving, or a single free agent LB that got worse when they came here.
Lofton?
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Lofton?
I thought Lofton played well for us. He led the team in tackles for several years. He was a liability in coverage but he was a thumper. I liked the guy.
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