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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; A discussion that has generated some heat recently is pretty interesting to me, so I'm going to see what we can do here. I suggest a cooperative attempt to determine how praise for victories and blame for losses should be ...

 
 
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:39 PM   #1
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Offense/Defense/?

A discussion that has generated some heat recently is pretty interesting to me, so I'm going to see what we can do here.

I suggest a cooperative attempt to determine how praise for victories and blame for losses should be distributed over the UNITS of this team.

Lets say there are 4 main units: Offense, Defense, Special Teams, and Coaching/Game planning. Each of these can be divided into two sub-groupings, which I will do shortly.

Here is the goal. Everyone gets to assign 100 praise points and 100 blame points. No one is allowed to comment on another's post until we have at least 10 responses to the original question. In your post you may make whatever arguments you like, and no one will respond until we've heard from at least 10 different B&G members.

Here are the Categories:
Wins
Passing Offense
Passing Defense
Rushing Offense
Passing Defense
Kick/Punt Return
Kick/Punt Coverage
Offensive Game Planning
Defensive Game Planning

Of course, other factors matter, like player development, discipline, etc. However, let's just ignore that for now.

Once this is done for Wins, repeat the process for losses.

Here is my point assigment, even though I haven't really had much time to think it through.

The two numbers following the category are first my points for praise for wins and second my points for blame for losses.
Passing Offense 18 10
Arg: We have decent WR, we got good yards, this unit isn't required to keep the offense off the field - that is the running game's job. Red zone turn overs hurt us some.
Passing Defense 12 18
Arg: We gave up big plays, several games teams passed at will.
Rushing Offense 12 18
Arg: The OL had too many penalties, Duece had his worst year in terms of production, we couldn't keep the defense off the field in the first quarter.
Passing Defense 15 12
Arg: Looked good toward the end of the season, but our LBs didn't contribute much to pass protection, before we got MM they struggled, we gave up a lot of passing yards and big plays, Peyton shredded us.
Kick/Punt Return 12 8
Arg: This unit wasn't spectacular but they were predictable.
Kick/Punt Coverage 12 8
Arg: I don't have much to say about this unit either.
Offensive Game Planning 7 15
Arg: We won DESPITE the 2TE base set, the predictability of our play calling, the misuse of our all-pro back.
Defensive Game Planning 10 13
Arg: Our defense didn't surprise anyone, read and react wtf?, we didn't blitz enough, our lack of talent on this side was fairly well disguised.

Ok. I've only had a few minutes to think this, but since I'm eager to hear what others have to say, I'm going to post this as is. I fully intend to alter my score settings in response to your guys' ideas, so don't hold me to them; after we get through the first ten posts, I'll state my corrections to this distribution.

I hope my numbers reflect these facts: (1) Coaching and game planning constitute one of our biggest problems last season, (2) our weak running game hurt us, (3) our pourous defense wasn't our only problem, but certainly cost us some games. Those are my views. I intend to refine them as the info comes in from all of you.

You'll notice one of the advantages of this method is that it is OBVIOUS that the units' final performace is very closely related to the peformance of other units (so no one should say "the offense doesn't affect the defense, or vice versa); what we are up to is trying to figure how much of our W-L goes to which unit.

[Edited on 24/2/2005 by JKool]

[Edited on 24/2/2005 by JKool]
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