2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk

saintswhodi · 02-25-2005, 06:40 PM

FACTS...DEAD LAST IN NEARLY EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY ....

WRONG!! We were 10th in takeaways, one of the most important stats. Okay, i\'m out again. :P

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 06:51 PM

nope pts per game 27th
td\'s allowed 24th

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 06:59 PM

Define nearly....

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 07:01 PM

Define nearly....

The real funny thing is..your bragging about placing 27th and lower in a catagory...

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:21 PM

the only thing i found we ranked last in was yards allowed per game. Time defense was on the field was pretty high though.

GumboBC · 02-25-2005, 07:22 PM

Saints defense:

Yards per game-383.8- 32nd
Yards per play-5.8-30th
First downs allowed per game-21.4-30th
Penalties on defense-119-25th
Penalty yardage-965-22nd
Field Goals allowed-31- rank 32nd
Scoring: 25.3 per game: rank28th
Passing plays of 20+ yards-65 -rank 31
First downs allowed by passing -193 - rank 27th
Rushing allowed: 140.3 yds per game - rank 30th

[Edited on 26/2/2005 by GumboBC]

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:24 PM

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I\'ve shown you facts that haven\'t been altered showing that the defense could be ranked 9th taking 10 out of 16 games where they were a full touchdown better than their overall average

That\'s called..picking and choosing....taking certain games out..and..whatever man....it\'s false...it\'s modified...the facts are..32nd rank...LAST..

you can try to twist it around..take this here..and move this there..but..when you get down to the FACTS...DEAD LAST IN NEARLY EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY ....

Here\'s a real test...

We can ask people from other boards..if the Saints Defense was bad..bad enough to hinder the progress of the Offense...

If bieng 32nd ranked can be modified to make them a better Defense than they actually appear...by taking out this game..and this drive..and this play...and only looking at the very few times they actually managed to show up...

Of course..there\'s no way you would do it...you would be laughed out of the Net...haha

And it would be a waste of my time..as I know..what the end result would be...and so do you...

Dead last in nearly every single catagory or nearly dead last in every single catagory. It\'s your quote.

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 07:29 PM

nearly dead last...almost .....thats the definiton of nearly..almost...not quite...very close...

I fail to see where I contradict myself....

We were either dead last..or very near it..in NEARLY every single catagory...

That\'s what i said..your right...

Then you post Stats to solidify my position further...thanks for the help..but..it was unnecessary

As I said..The Stats speak for themselves

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 07:32 PM

Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average?

Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field...

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:37 PM

yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned. How bad the defense was compared to the padded stats of the offense is what is in question. We can pass 10 times for 300 yards and not score and the yards look great but the fumbles and the ints and the three and outs tell a differnt story. The defense didn\'t have a chance to win a game because the offense couldn\'t get on the board. Defnse wins games yeah but you still need to score to win. And the offense couldn\'t get it started until late when the padding started. Ball control would have helped alot.

02-25-2005, 06:40 PM	#61
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk FACTS...DEAD LAST IN NEARLY EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY .... WRONG!! We were 10th in takeaways, one of the most important stats. Okay, i\'m out again. :P

02-25-2005, 06:51 PM	#62
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk nope pts per game 27th td\'s allowed 24th

02-25-2005, 06:59 PM	#63
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Define nearly....
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02-25-2005, 07:01 PM	#64
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Define nearly.... The real funny thing is..your bragging about placing 27th and lower in a catagory...
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02-25-2005, 07:21 PM	#65
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk the only thing i found we ranked last in was yards allowed per game. Time defense was on the field was pretty high though.

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02-25-2005, 07:22 PM	#66
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Saints defense: Yards per game-383.8- 32nd Yards per play-5.8-30th First downs allowed per game-21.4-30th Penalties on defense-119-25th Penalty yardage-965-22nd Field Goals allowed-31- rank 32nd Scoring: 25.3 per game: rank28th Passing plays of 20+ yards-65 -rank 31 First downs allowed by passing -193 - rank 27th Rushing allowed: 140.3 yds per game - rank 30th [Edited on 26/2/2005 by GumboBC]
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02-25-2005, 07:24 PM	#67
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk ________________________________________________________ I\'ve shown you facts that haven\'t been altered showing that the defense could be ranked 9th taking 10 out of 16 games where they were a full touchdown better than their overall average That\'s called..picking and choosing....taking certain games out..and..whatever man....it\'s false...it\'s modified...the facts are..32nd rank...LAST.. you can try to twist it around..take this here..and move this there..but..when you get down to the FACTS...DEAD LAST IN NEARLY EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY .... Here\'s a real test... We can ask people from other boards..if the Saints Defense was bad..bad enough to hinder the progress of the Offense... If bieng 32nd ranked can be modified to make them a better Defense than they actually appear...by taking out this game..and this drive..and this play...and only looking at the very few times they actually managed to show up... Of course..there\'s no way you would do it...you would be laughed out of the Net...haha And it would be a waste of my time..as I know..what the end result would be...and so do you... Dead last in nearly every single catagory or nearly dead last in every single catagory. It\'s your quote.

02-25-2005, 07:29 PM	#68
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk nearly dead last...almost .....thats the definiton of nearly..almost...not quite...very close... I fail to see where I contradict myself.... We were either dead last..or very near it..in NEARLY every single catagory... That\'s what i said..your right... Then you post Stats to solidify my position further...thanks for the help..but..it was unnecessary As I said..The Stats speak for themselves
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02-25-2005, 07:32 PM	#69
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average? Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field...
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02-25-2005, 07:37 PM	#70
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned. How bad the defense was compared to the padded stats of the offense is what is in question. We can pass 10 times for 300 yards and not score and the yards look great but the fumbles and the ints and the three and outs tell a differnt story. The defense didn\'t have a chance to win a game because the offense couldn\'t get on the board. Defnse wins games yeah but you still need to score to win. And the offense couldn\'t get it started until late when the padding started. Ball control would have helped alot.