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2013 playoffs
Armstead is playing well, Streif is solid, DLP was solid, Evans was healthy.

Yet Brees struggled some. We did beat eagles, but Brees threw two picks. If not for running the ball we would not have won.

Seattle was worse. In the first half though we never even attempted to pass. In the second half, one of Brees big passes was a overhead pass to Meachem, that went over a defender. That could have easily been picked. Colston scored a TD toward the end. Graham was too contained. Hill was not used enough. Moore did nothing. Even running the ball we well we still lost that game. And it was said Seattle was playing some sort of prevent.

Those two games are examples of what the offense dealt with then. If Cooks was playing then(he was in college) how much does he help here? Maybe against Philadelphia, but I doubt he helps against Seattle. Yet we did move the ball more than this last year in those road games, but we got to maybe the 40 yard line before having to punt or kick a missed fg. You cannot trust what we have to deal with what our offense dealt with then.

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Sorry - I don't understand your point.

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Not sure what you are trying to say but I will agree that the offensive line has been one of the weak links in this team. Armstead is a great talent, I love the addition of Unger and like drafting Peat. Now I want to see them add another high draft pick to this unit (2nd round) to replace Evans

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Jahri Evans - fourth round

Zach Strief - seventh round

Jermon Bushrod - fourth round

Carl Nicks - fifth round

Charles Brown - second round

Terron Armstead - third round

Tim Lelito - undrafted free agent



You don't necessarily have to spend a high round pick to obtain a quality offensive linemen...

Good Scouting, Good Draft Preparation, Good Draft Discipline, and as many darts (picks) you can acquire and throw at the board are what we need...

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Our oline was playing well in the playoffs and lack of weapons was what hurt us. I mean at that point we never questioned Streif, DLP, Evans, Grubbs. It was just LT until Armstead's second game as starter. And yet defensively we played well but still lost in Seattle because of offense.

I'm just saying. Getting HFA means winning tough road games. I hope Payton is smarter than some of the fans. Because Brees' one thing he has not accomplished is winning tough road games against top defenses that run the clock down. That's the one negative so far on his resume. And more teams than 2009 are like this now.

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Charles Brown USC - second round. A GIANT BUST.

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^Yes but he wasn't playing in January of 2014.

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I'm still not sold on Peat. He has a lot of work to do on his footwork and positioning techniques and I dont even see him being better than strief unless he drastically improves in the offseason.

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Peat is still a baby. Just wait until he becomes a man. He's going to dominate in the trenches.

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Charlie Brown was a TE that got converted to OT while at USC, I want someone that's been playing Oline for 6-7 years before they make it to the NFL

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I think its pointless talking about anything other than D.

Doesn't matter if we score 50 points a game if we give up 51 we lose. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but the winners of the SB usually have a top notch D.

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Same here.

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Is it a requirement to have Denver's defense to get to a sb? The old saints offense with a top 20 defense is good enough to get to a sb.

The thing I want is road wins, you can't expect Brees alone to shut the home crowd up in the fourth q in a close game if the receivers are not paying attention. I was listening to a podcast from D professor from January and they clarified that the players need to listen to Drew and Sean. The games we have a chance to win next year are SF(look at their home games last year) and KC if the offense can make plays in a likely tight knit defensive game. But are we really hoping for our receivers like Snead and Coleman to make clutch plays against those secondaries in the fourth q and not expect Maclin, Kelce, Treadwell(who SF is targeting), TSmith, all bigger receivers, to make plays because.....Drew Brees is better than those QBs? Their defense is better than ours and will be next year too. I think SD is another one the offense will need to show up because Rivers is not gonna fail to show up in that game and will play with a chip on his shoulder. But I'm expecting that to be a shootout anyway.

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Yea I don't get it. That was 3 years ago and has nothing to do with now. And I seem to remember plenty of people *****ing about our line then.

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Considering we didn't address anything but the replacement for DLP and drafting Golic, Jr(never panned out) I would say the FO was satisfied with the oline.

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I think you are missing the point and the stat. That year was the exception to the rule. Look at all the other teams that have been winning the SB since and even before - top ranked Defenses wins the Championship games.
Even this year look at what the D's done to the offenses - made them pointless.