oline problems last two years overshadows this

WillSaints81 · 02-01-2016, 06:14 PM

2013 playoffs
Armstead is playing well, Streif is solid, DLP was solid, Evans was healthy.

Yet Brees struggled some. We did beat eagles, but Brees threw two picks. If not for running the ball we would not have won.

Seattle was worse. In the first half though we never even attempted to pass. In the second half, one of Brees big passes was a overhead pass to Meachem, that went over a defender. That could have easily been picked. Colston scored a TD toward the end. Graham was too contained. Hill was not used enough. Moore did nothing. Even running the ball we well we still lost that game. And it was said Seattle was playing some sort of prevent.

Those two games are examples of what the offense dealt with then. If Cooks was playing then(he was in college) how much does he help here? Maybe against Philadelphia, but I doubt he helps against Seattle. Yet we did move the ball more than this last year in those road games, but we got to maybe the 40 yard line before having to punt or kick a missed fg. You cannot trust what we have to deal with what our offense dealt with then.

44Champs · 02-03-2016, 03:38 AM

Sorry - I don't understand your point.

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RaginCajun83 · 02-03-2016, 09:41 AM

Not sure what you are trying to say but I will agree that the offensive line has been one of the weak links in this team. Armstead is a great talent, I love the addition of Unger and like drafting Peat. Now I want to see them add another high draft pick to this unit (2nd round) to replace Evans

jeanpierre · 02-03-2016, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Not sure what you are trying to say but I will agree that the offensive line has been one of the weak links in this team. Armstead is a great talent, I love the addition of Unger and like drafting Peat. Now I want to see them add another high draft pick to this unit (2nd round) to replace Evans

Jahri Evans - fourth round

Zach Strief - seventh round

Jermon Bushrod - fourth round

Carl Nicks - fifth round

Charles Brown - second round

Terron Armstead - third round

Tim Lelito - undrafted free agent

You don't necessarily have to spend a high round pick to obtain a quality offensive linemen...

Good Scouting, Good Draft Preparation, Good Draft Discipline, and as many darts (picks) you can acquire and throw at the board are what we need...

WillSaints81 · 02-03-2016, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Sorry - I don't understand your point.

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Our oline was playing well in the playoffs and lack of weapons was what hurt us. I mean at that point we never questioned Streif, DLP, Evans, Grubbs. It was just LT until Armstead's second game as starter. And yet defensively we played well but still lost in Seattle because of offense.

I'm just saying. Getting HFA means winning tough road games. I hope Payton is smarter than some of the fans. Because Brees' one thing he has not accomplished is winning tough road games against top defenses that run the clock down. That's the one negative so far on his resume. And more teams than 2009 are like this now.

QBREES9 · 02-03-2016, 11:11 PM

Charles Brown USC - second round. A GIANT BUST.

WillSaints81 · 02-04-2016, 02:10 AM

^Yes but he wasn't playing in January of 2014.

44Champs · 02-04-2016, 07:28 AM

I'm still not sold on Peat. He has a lot of work to do on his footwork and positioning techniques and I dont even see him being better than strief unless he drastically improves in the offseason.

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Rugby Saint II · 02-08-2016, 02:56 PM

Peat is still a baby. Just wait until he becomes a man. He's going to dominate in the trenches.

RaginCajun83 · 02-08-2016, 03:00 PM

Charlie Brown was a TE that got converted to OT while at USC, I want someone that's been playing Oline for 6-7 years before they make it to the NFL

02-01-2016, 06:14 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	oline problems last two years overshadows this 2013 playoffs Armstead is playing well, Streif is solid, DLP was solid, Evans was healthy. Yet Brees struggled some. We did beat eagles, but Brees threw two picks. If not for running the ball we would not have won. Seattle was worse. In the first half though we never even attempted to pass. In the second half, one of Brees big passes was a overhead pass to Meachem, that went over a defender. That could have easily been picked. Colston scored a TD toward the end. Graham was too contained. Hill was not used enough. Moore did nothing. Even running the ball we well we still lost that game. And it was said Seattle was playing some sort of prevent. Those two games are examples of what the offense dealt with then. If Cooks was playing then(he was in college) how much does he help here? Maybe against Philadelphia, but I doubt he helps against Seattle. Yet we did move the ball more than this last year in those road games, but we got to maybe the 40 yard line before having to punt or kick a missed fg. You cannot trust what we have to deal with what our offense dealt with then.

02-03-2016, 03:38 AM	#2
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Sorry - I don't understand your point. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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02-03-2016, 09:41 AM	#3
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Not sure what you are trying to say but I will agree that the offensive line has been one of the weak links in this team. Armstead is a great talent, I love the addition of Unger and like drafting Peat. Now I want to see them add another high draft pick to this unit (2nd round) to replace Evans

02-03-2016, 10:40 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Not sure what you are trying to say but I will agree that the offensive line has been one of the weak links in this team. Armstead is a great talent, I love the addition of Unger and like drafting Peat. Now I want to see them add another high draft pick to this unit (2nd round) to replace Evans Jahri Evans - fourth round Zach Strief - seventh round Jermon Bushrod - fourth round Carl Nicks - fifth round Charles Brown - second round Terron Armstead - third round Tim Lelito - undrafted free agent You don't necessarily have to spend a high round pick to obtain a quality offensive linemen... Good Scouting, Good Draft Preparation, Good Draft Discipline, and as many darts (picks) you can acquire and throw at the board are what we need... Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-03-2016, 06:33 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Originally Posted by 44Champs Sorry - I don't understand your point. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Our oline was playing well in the playoffs and lack of weapons was what hurt us. I mean at that point we never questioned Streif, DLP, Evans, Grubbs. It was just LT until Armstead's second game as starter. And yet defensively we played well but still lost in Seattle because of offense. I'm just saying. Getting HFA means winning tough road games. I hope Payton is smarter than some of the fans. Because Brees' one thing he has not accomplished is winning tough road games against top defenses that run the clock down. That's the one negative so far on his resume. And more teams than 2009 are like this now.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this ^Yes but he wasn't playing in January of 2014.

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44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this I'm still not sold on Peat. He has a lot of work to do on his footwork and positioning techniques and I dont even see him being better than strief unless he drastically improves in the offseason. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Peat is still a baby. Just wait until he becomes a man. He's going to dominate in the trenches.

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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Charlie Brown was a TE that got converted to OT while at USC, I want someone that's been playing Oline for 6-7 years before they make it to the NFL Barry from MS likes this.