2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 11-15-2016, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

A packers buddy is mad as heck about this one also. he likes the risk the saints are taking with the players we are picking for special teams. Despite great special teams play his play as a safety is questionable

Banjo, a popular figure in the locker room and one of the team's best special teams players last year, was limited to two games this season because of the hamstring ailment. He played in 37 regular-season games for the Packers over four seasons.

Packers release safety Chris Banjo

What this makes me wonder is this, depth at safety?

Well, I hope it works out because we sure didn't keep the last Packer that those fans were upset was left exposed to waivers...

The pending loss of Mauti is important to special teams, but he was as important to linebacking depth, not safety depth...

jeanpierre · 11-16-2016, 04:55 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Week 11 - New Orleans Saints @ Carolina Panthers

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco (DNP - hamstring)

WR (4) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 72 - Terron Armstead (DNP - knee)

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete

C (1) 60 - Max Unger

RG (2) 73- Jahri Evans, 78 - Landon Turner

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 76 - Tony Hills

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - John Phillips

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata

DE (2) 99 - Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar

MLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 97 - Sam Barrington

WLB (1) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 28 - B.W. Webb, 46 - Ken Crawley

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 49 - Shiloh Keo

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 37 - Chris Banjo

RCB (2) 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher

PRACTICE SQUAD

C 66 - Jack Allen

DB 39 - Taveze Calhoun

CB 20 - Brian Dixon

G 73 - John Fullington

QB 18 - Garrett Grayson

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin

LB 42 - Lamar Louis

DT 96 - Ashaad Mabry

TE 85 - Jake Stoneburner

WR 81 - Jordan Williams

RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson

WR 12 - Kyle Prater

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway

CB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt

DB 27 - Damian Swann

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson

CB 25 - P.J. Williams

DE 58 - Obum Gwacham

DB 30 - Erik Harris

RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young

LB 56 - Mike Mauti

Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Injury Reported: Did Not Practice (DNP), Limited In Practice (LP), Reserve, Injured (IR),
Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Non-Football Injury (NFI)
Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 26 Defense - 24, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53; Practice Roster - 10/10

hagan714 · 11-16-2016, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, I hope it works out because we sure didn't keep the last Packer that those fans were upset was left exposed to waivers...

The pending loss of Mauti is important to special teams, but he was as important to linebacker depth, not safety depth...

I am starting to see, more clearly a lack of talent elevation and an air of desperation in the saints organization that is really worrying me more than ever.

You know I am not and have not been happy with the saints safety play nor the moves the saints have made in recent years to solve the talent. I have beaten this drum into pieces

keep an eye on this draft for secondary players especially on day 2.

But alas I have little faith they will do anything once again.

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 49 - Shiloh Keo

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 37 - Chris Banjo

IR DB 30 - Erik Harris

Of the group keep Kenny Vaccaro, Vonn Bell, Erik Harris.

The rest can walk.

Even the keepers I am so-so on except Harris I see as a solid developmental player. But we are stuck.

This draft is a draft we can completely upgrade and rebuild the safety position.

K Major · 11-16-2016, 07:29 AM

Hagan,
Would you consider keeping JByrd at a reduced or restructured salary?

Just curious ...

jeanpierre · 11-16-2016, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hagan,
Would you consider keeping JByrd at a reduced or restructured salary?

Just curious ...

In the back of my mind is that quote of Kenny Vaccaro where he challenged some players to be great and there was speculation it was about Byrd...

Nonetheless, injuries happen, but when they happen often, you have to question the player's commitment to the necessary level of mental and physical conditioning necessary for that player to be "available."

Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2016, 12:56 PM

I am curious to see how banjo plays. No pun intended.

hagan714 · 11-16-2016, 03:34 PM

Go youth all the way.

jeanpierre · 11-19-2016, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Go youth all the way.

Quarterback options are limited...

jeanpierre · 11-22-2016, 07:17 AM

jeanpierre · 11-22-2016, 07:19 AM

Saints caught lightning in a bottle signing this guy...Ever get 'em all healthy, we'll have one helluva secondary...

11-15-2016, 10:33 PM	#991
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 A packers buddy is mad as heck about this one also. he likes the risk the saints are taking with the players we are picking for special teams. Despite great special teams play his play as a safety is questionable Banjo, a popular figure in the locker room and one of the team's best special teams players last year, was limited to two games this season because of the hamstring ailment. He played in 37 regular-season games for the Packers over four seasons. Packers release safety Chris Banjo What this makes me wonder is this, depth at safety? Well, I hope it works out because we sure didn't keep the last Packer that those fans were upset was left exposed to waivers... The pending loss of Mauti is important to special teams, but he was as important to linebacking depth, not safety depth...
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11-16-2016, 04:55 AM	#992
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Week 11 - New Orleans Saints @ Carolina Panthers OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown FB (1) *29 - John Kuhn* RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco (DNP - hamstring) WR (4) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann LT (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 72 - Terron Armstead (DNP - knee) LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete C (1) 60 - Max Unger RG (2) 73- Jahri Evans, 78 - Landon Turner RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, *76 - Tony Hills* TE (3) *82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - John Phillips* SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, *55 - Darryl Tapp* DT (2) *90 - Nick Fairley, DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins* NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata DE (2) *99 - Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali* SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, *54 - Nate Stupar* MLB (2) *52 - Craig Robertson, 97 - Sam Barrington* WLB (1) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, *28 - B.W. Webb, 46 - Ken Crawley* FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, *49 - Shiloh Keo* SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, *41 - Roman Harper, 37 - Chris Banjo* RCB (2) *24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris* KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher PRACTICE SQUAD C 66 - Jack Allen *DB 39 - Taveze Calhoun* CB 20 - Brian Dixon *G 73 - John Fullington* QB 18 - Garrett Grayson TE 45 - Garrett Griffin LB 42 - Lamar Louis DT 96 - Ashaad Mabry *TE 85 - Jake Stoneburner* WR 81 - Jordan Williams RESERVE/INJURED FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford CB 24 - Kyle Wilson WR 12 - Kyle Prater DE 77 - D.J. Pettway CB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt DB 27 - Damian Swann TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson CB 25 - P.J. Williams DE 58 - Obum Gwacham DB 30 - Erik Harris RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen OL 67 - Avery Young LB 56 - Mike Mauti Projected Starter *Veteran Free Agent Acquisition* Injury Reported: Did Not Practice (DNP), Limited In Practice (LP), Reserve, Injured (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Non-Football Injury (NFI) Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 26 Defense - 24, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53; Practice Roster - 10/10
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11-16-2016, 06:05 AM	#993
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, I hope it works out because we sure didn't keep the last Packer that those fans were upset was left exposed to waivers... The pending loss of Mauti is important to special teams, but he was as important to linebacker depth, not safety depth... I am starting to see, more clearly a lack of talent elevation and an air of desperation in the saints organization that is really worrying me more than ever. You know I am not and have not been happy with the saints safety play nor the moves the saints have made in recent years to solve the talent. I have beaten this drum into pieces keep an eye on this draft for secondary players especially on day 2. But alas I have little faith they will do anything once again. FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 49 - Shiloh Keo SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 37 - Chris Banjo IR DB 30 - Erik Harris Of the group keep Kenny Vaccaro, Vonn Bell, Erik Harris. The rest can walk. Even the keepers I am so-so on except Harris I see as a solid developmental player. But we are stuck. This draft is a draft we can completely upgrade and rebuild the safety position. K Major likes this.
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11-16-2016, 07:29 AM	#994
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Hagan, Would you consider keeping JByrd at a reduced or restructured salary? Just curious ...

11-16-2016, 08:42 AM	#995
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Hagan, Would you consider keeping JByrd at a reduced or restructured salary? Just curious ... In the back of my mind is that quote of Kenny Vaccaro where he challenged some players to be great and there was speculation it was about Byrd... Nonetheless, injuries happen, but when they happen often, you have to question the player's commitment to the necessary level of mental and physical conditioning necessary for that player to be "available." K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 Go youth all the way. Quarterback options are limited...

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