2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 08-22-2016, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What's the deal with John Jenkins? Is he back at practice yet?

Jenkins is not making this team and he probably knows it; latest injury is a neck stinger if I'm not mistaken, before it was a deep bone bruise...

Got to be available...

halloween 65 · 08-22-2016, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jenkins is not making this team and he probably knows it; latest injury is a neck stinger if I'm not mistaken, before it was a deep bone bruise...

Got to be available...

I never really understood that pick? Not that I dislike him but a NT in my opionion needs to be a force. Just like a SS in the backfield?

jeanpierre · 08-22-2016, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I never really understood that pick? Not that I dislike him but a NT in my opionion needs to be a force. Just like a SS in the backfield?

Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time...

You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks...

That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne...

You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull...

Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace...

Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable...

But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts...

The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...

hagan714 · 08-23-2016, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time...

You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks...

That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne...

You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull...

Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace...

Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable...

But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts...

The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...

Jenkins as a 34 NT I never bought into. He was a big soft teddy bear in college with some flashes. So changing him into a nasty grizzle was never in the cards IMO.

But as a 43 NT that is possible. Starter? Year one he almost made me eat crow. So he might add some solid over paid for depth as a 43 NT.

Tull? not sure what to say about him right now

jeanpierre · 08-22-2016, 03:49 PM

jeanpierre · 08-23-2016, 03:00 AM

K Major · 08-23-2016, 08:45 AM

Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp.

jeanpierre · 08-23-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp.

Coach Payton might call that "pedestrian" but Rashaun Allen shouldn't be a threat...

jeanpierre · 08-24-2016, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp.

Yeah, I don't know what's going on there; he's disappeared these past two season when you think about it...

But the team figured we had something to exercise restricted rights on him...

lee909 · 08-23-2016, 10:40 AM

Allen's drop the other night was a cutable offense.

08-22-2016, 01:14 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major What's the deal with John Jenkins? Is he back at practice yet? Jenkins is not making this team and he probably knows it; latest injury is a neck stinger if I'm not mistaken, before it was a deep bone bruise... Got to be available...

08-22-2016, 01:18 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jenkins is not making this team and he probably knows it; latest injury is a neck stinger if I'm not mistaken, before it was a deep bone bruise... Got to be available... I never really understood that pick? Not that I dislike him but a NT in my opionion needs to be a force. Just like a SS in the backfield?

08-22-2016, 01:28 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by halloween 65 I never really understood that pick? Not that I dislike him but a NT in my opionion needs to be a force. Just like a SS in the backfield? Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time... You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks... That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne... You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull... Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace... Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable... But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts... The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...
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08-23-2016, 08:36 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time... You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks... That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne... You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull... Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace... Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable... But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts... The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)... Jenkins as a 34 NT I never bought into. He was a big soft teddy bear in college with some flashes. So changing him into a nasty grizzle was never in the cards IMO. But as a 43 NT that is possible. Starter? Year one he almost made me eat crow. So he might add some solid over paid for depth as a 43 NT. Tull? not sure what to say about him right now

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08-23-2016, 10:36 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp. Coach Payton might call that "pedestrian" but Rashaun Allen shouldn't be a threat...

08-24-2016, 08:01 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there; he's disappeared these past two season when you think about it... But the team figured we had something to exercise restricted rights on him...

08-23-2016, 10:40 AM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Allen's drop the other night was a cutable offense.

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