2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

K Major · 07-21-2016, 07:19 AM

I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core.

jeanpierre · 07-21-2016, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core.

Well, the only two returning are Cooks, Snead; and then there's Coleman; so I can see despite adding Thomas and Fleener that they'll have to prove themselves...

hagan714 · 07-22-2016, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core.

To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see
Who mans the slot?
Who will step up and help Cook get free?
Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole?
Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again?

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris

Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop.

Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook.

Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement

Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree.

After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement.

21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though

jeanpierre · 07-22-2016, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see
Who mans the slot?
Who will step up and help Cook get free?
Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole?
Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again?

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris

Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop.

Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook.

Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement

Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree.

After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement.

21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though

Thomas has the raw ability to be a good No. 1 for this offense; may need to thing about bringing in a veteran or two (e.g. Boldin, Hartline) to transition...

Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone...

Snead is a great third complementary receiver and should really keep coverages from rolling up on Cooks or Thomas...

I'm not yet sold we have two other receivers on this roster that could give us the range and variety we need - wait and see...

Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...

K Major · 07-22-2016, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...

I think you have to. After Cooks and Snead ... dicey.

hagan714 · 07-24-2016, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone...

If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster.

The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

jeanpierre · 07-25-2016, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster.

The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

Hagan...Cooks is they guy that takes the top off the defense, we just needed to get the big bangers to replace Colston and Graham...

I preferred Treadwell, but will see what we got in Thomas now that it's real football, with real contact...

Still think we need more proven veterans for the WR corps and Boldin and Hartline are all that's left...

07-21-2016, 07:19 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core.

07-21-2016, 11:21 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core. Well, the only two returning are Cooks, Snead; and then there's Coleman; so I can see despite adding Thomas and Fleener that they'll have to prove themselves... ChrisXVI likes this.
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07-22-2016, 06:23 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core. To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see Who mans the slot? Who will step up and help Cook get free? Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole? Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again? WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop. Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook. Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree. After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement. 21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though K Major likes this.
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07-22-2016, 01:53 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see Who mans the slot? Who will step up and help Cook get free? Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole? Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again? WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop. Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook. Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree. After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement. 21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though Thomas has the raw ability to be a good No. 1 for this offense; may need to thing about bringing in a veteran or two (e.g. Boldin, Hartline) to transition... Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone... Snead is a great third complementary receiver and should really keep coverages from rolling up on Cooks or Thomas... I'm not yet sold we have two other receivers on this roster that could give us the range and variety we need - wait and see... Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...
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07-22-2016, 03:39 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game... I think you have to. After Cooks and Snead ... dicey.

07-24-2016, 09:39 PM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone... If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster. The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

07-25-2016, 05:53 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster. The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set. Hagan...Cooks is they guy that takes the top off the defense, we just needed to get the big bangers to replace Colston and Graham... I preferred Treadwell, but will see what we got in Thomas now that it's real football, with real contact... Still think we need more proven veterans for the WR corps and Boldin and Hartline are all that's left...

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