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Danno 02-08-2016 06:59 PM

What the Superbowl showed me
 
1. Defense still wins championships, despite the rule changes favoring offenses.
2. Von Miller is a freak.
3. Lady Ga Ga has some pipes. Nice job.
4. Coldplay, Beyonce and Bruno Mars suck. No wonder ISIS wants to kill us.
5. Cam is exactly who most of us said he was. An overrated spoiled brat.
6. Peyton’s arm is totally over. I can throw a football farther than he can.
7. Wade Phillips is a defensive guru.
8. I want a Luke Kuechly on my team.
9. I want a Josh Norman on my team.
10. Media are way too obsessed with the emotions of these gladiators. This ain’t Housewives of the NFL.
11. Defensive speed is the new normal for the NFL. "Slightly under-sized" is now passe.
12. In a copycat league, athletic O-linemen may be the kryptonite for the new speed defenses bound to emerge. If we can't get a stud pass rusher, another freak O-lineman like Armstead will do just fine.
13. It doesn't matter if you run a 3-4 or a 4-3. Both can be dominant.

The Dude 02-08-2016 07:48 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 692328)
1. Defense still wins championships, despite the rule changes favoring offenses.
2. Von Miller is a freak.
3. Lady Ga Ga has some pipes. Nice job.
4. Coldplay, Beyonce and Bruno Mars suck. No wonder ISIS wants to kill us.
5. Cam is exactly who most of us said he was. An overrated spoiled brat.
6. Peyton’s arm is totally over. I can throw a football farther than he can.
7. Wade Phillips is a defensive guru.
8. I want a Luke Kuechly on my team.
9. I want a Josh Norman on my team.
10. Media are way too obsessed with the emotions of these gladiators. This ain’t Housewives of the NFL.
11. Defensive speed is the new normal for the NFL. "Slightly under-sized" is now passe.
12. In a copycat league, athletic O-linemen may be the kryptonite for the new speed defenses bound to emerge. If we can't get a stud pass rusher, another freak O-lineman like Armstead will do just fine.
13. It doesn't matter if you run a 3-4 or a 4-3. Both can be dominant.

I don't think Bruno Mars and Coldplay suck. I like them ok on their own but the halftime show as a whole was one of the worst I remember. I can't stand Beyoncé but I thought her half time show a couple years back was ok.
Lady Gaga was amazing. She should do next years halftime show. She has the talent and showmanship to pull off a great one.

That defense was fun to watch. I couldn't wait to see them get back on the field. I enjoyed watching them as much as a greatest show on turf type offense. Bet it's nice for those Broncos fans not to have to hold their breath and cross their fingers each time the defense takes the field.

Oh why couldn't we have gotten Phillips instead of Ryan.

Seer1 02-08-2016 08:08 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 692328)
1. Defense still wins championships, despite the rule changes favoring offenses.
2. Von Miller is a freak.
3. Lady Ga Ga has some pipes. Nice job.
4. Coldplay, Beyonce and Bruno Mars suck. No wonder ISIS wants to kill us.
5. Cam is exactly who most of us said he was. An overrated spoiled brat.
6. Peyton’s arm is totally over. I can throw a football farther than he can.
7. Wade Phillips is a defensive guru.
8. I want a Luke Kuechly on my team.
9. I want a Josh Norman on my team.
10. Media are way too obsessed with the emotions of these gladiators. This ain’t Housewives of the NFL.
11. Defensive speed is the new normal for the NFL. "Slightly under-sized" is now passe.
12. In a copycat league, athletic O-linemen may be the kryptonite for the new speed defenses bound to emerge. If we can't get a stud pass rusher, another freak O-lineman like Armstead will do just fine.
13. It doesn't matter if you run a 3-4 or a 4-3. Both can be dominant.

1.Defense always has won championships. Why do people (Saints) keep forgetting that?
1. I want Von Miller on my team.
1. I want the next DeMarcus Ware on my team.
1. I want all dead money to be forgiven.
1. I want a real defensive coordinator.
1. Oh yeah, and that lottery thing to come through.

The Dude 02-08-2016 08:31 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Cam really did show how much of a ***** he really is. A real champion uses a loss to gain perspective and can come out of it with dignity. A real champion knows how to handle the adversity of a loss. Payton says it all the time. How you handle a loss speaks volumes about the character of your team. Cam has never really been on the losing end of anything meaningful and isn't mature enough to handle it. With his personality type this could easily put him and the Panthers in a tailspin.

K Major 02-08-2016 09:09 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 692344)
1.Defense always has won championships. Why do people (Saints) keep forgetting that?
1. I want Von Miller on my team.
1. I want the next DeMarcus Ware on my team.

True ... top defenses are 10-2 in Super Bowls.
Von is about to get a serious contract in Denver.

Getting the next DeMarcus Ware could happen in N O .. remember who scouted and drafted him? ... Jeff Ireland ;) :bng:.

Danno 02-08-2016 09:13 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
The saints haven't forgotten about defense. They've tried year after year to address it.

RaginCajun83 02-08-2016 09:24 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
14. when Cam plays a top notch defense, he goes back to his pouting and crying self by the end of the game

neugey 02-08-2016 10:35 PM

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I am wondering if Von Miller has any younger relatives.

lumm0x 02-09-2016 09:25 AM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Everyone is seeing the rules and league evolve into a passing, offensive driver league and it's amazing to see that a dominant defense still trumps all. I don't blame teams for focusing on offense and the passing game because of the league changes. I hope this opens our eyes further to the necessity of addressing our defensive liabilities.

hagan714 02-09-2016 09:36 AM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Love the fact the defenses were aloud to play.

Referrers stopped throwing Ticky-Tacky Fouls all the time.

This is what this super bowl was about:
which offense could take the pounding and not flinch when they had a chance to put what few points they could on the board, against two of the best defenses in the NFL

I love old school football. hit them hard and hit them often. They will get scared and flinch.

This is the way football is meant to be played.

Cam crapped his pants and came back in the second half with a superman diaper on. They beat the desire and willingness to win out of him by the end of the 3rd quarter. He flat gave up on his team. Dude is still hearing foot steps. peeing his bed and jumping out of his skin at every little sound still.

Cam could never be an old school QB.

RailBoss 02-09-2016 10:00 AM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Very good thread, my hats off to Wade Phillips excellent work against both the Patriots and Panthers. Have to think Oail Andrew "Bum" Phillips
is up there very proud of his Son.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2016 10:32 AM

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I liked some of the new commercials. Besides that I enjoyed watching Cam lose control.

burningmetal 02-09-2016 11:11 AM

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I haven't watched any part of a super bowl halftime show in about a decade. When I heard who was going to be performing, I knew that missing it again would probably be my best decision of the week. The super bowl has never had a band or solo artist that I liked. It's always ear candy pop, some loud mouth diva or tired old act like the rolling bones. It's just not for me.

I didn't really pay much attention to the game either, and didn't see googoo gaga sing, but I saw something about her performance afterward. I was shocked that she actually looked like a person. I thought she might have been an alien before.

jeanpierre 02-09-2016 11:29 AM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Observations:

The Panthers 4-3 and Broncos 3-4 work because they've got the right guys in the right position...

It took a while but someone finally stopped kissing Cam Newton's a$$ and started kicking his a$$ this season...

Peyton's body is done; he will at least have hip surgery in the near future and should listen to Olivia, not the media...

The Broncos receivers are so overpaid Manning has spoiled them in past seasons; no effort to fight for a ball...

Peyton Manning won a Superbowl against a great defense despite having Gary Kubiak as a head coach...

Luke Kuechly, great hair and all, should have been named the season MVP and not Cam Newton...

We have a great head coach and offensive genius in Sean Payton...


The best entertainment was surprisingly from Lady Gaga...

The Halftime Show has got to go down as one of the Greatest WTF moments in NFL history...What was up with that?!?

Angry Beyonce marching in with the Black Panther Amazons overwhelming a British testosterone-challenged, elevator music synth band?!?

With Bruno Mars doing some kind of tribute to the late pedophile Michael Jackson?!? Way to keep the Shield classy, Rodge!!!

Barry from MS 02-09-2016 01:01 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
What SB 50 showed me was this: We need bigger and more talented DTs to stuff the running lanes and press the middle so Carolina becomes one-dimensional, just like Denver did to them. Miller & Ware got the glory, but Denver's DTs clogged the middle consistently, stuffed the run, and pressured into Scam's face brilliantly.

Bottom Line: We need to get more talented, more physical & more disciplined on the defensive line of scrimmage if we want to make a run at winning the NFC South.

blackangold 02-09-2016 01:43 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 692393)
Everyone is seeing the rules and league evolve into a passing, offensive driver league and it's amazing to see that a dominant defense still trumps all. I don't blame teams for focusing on offense and the passing game because of the league changes. I hope this opens our eyes further to the necessity of addressing our defensive liabilities.

4 of the last 5 championship teams were centered around defense.

The rules can be worked around by great players. We just need to be putting the money in the right places.

Seer1 02-09-2016 01:55 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 692432)
What SB 50 showed me was this: We need bigger and more talented DTs to stuff the running lanes and press the middle so Carolina becomes one-dimensional, just like Denver did to them. Miller & Ware got the glory, but Denver's DTs clogged the middle consistently, stuffed the run, and pressured into Scam's face brilliantly.

Bottom Line: We need to get more talented, more physical & more disciplined on the defensive line of scrimmage if we want to make a run at winning the NFC South.

Talent ain't squat without somebody to use it the right way...

ScottF 02-09-2016 02:11 PM

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What we learned, or specifically, confirmed, was that Carolina is very beatable.
Great game plan from Phillips: stop the run, take away Olsen, and let Cam beat himself.
Let's not forget we lost two games to them by a combined 8 points, and one was without Brees. As was the case all year, we had 10 chances to win both games, and couldn't close the deal

WhoDat!656 02-09-2016 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 692438)
What we learned, or specifically, confirmed, was that Carolina is very beatable.
Great game plan from Phillips: stop the run, take away Olsen, and let Cam beat himself.
Let's not forget we lost two games to them by a combined 8 points, and one was without Brees. As was the case all year, we had 10 chances to win both games, and couldn't close the deal

Of course the kittens are beatable; the Saints should have swept them last.

In the first game I believe that if Brees had been playing instead of McCown he would have put the pass in the endzone to where it would have been a catch or a defensive penalty.

The second game if the Saints defense, specifically Browner, had played better we would have completed the sweep.

I doubt Carolina makes it back to the playoffs next year.

MarchingOn 02-09-2016 03:38 PM

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Miller was great off the edge, yes. But, I was awed with Ware even when he wasn't rushing the passer. Was he playing DE? Looked bigger than an OLB.

I expect the nice defensive backfield helped that rush, too.

NT/DTs shut down the middle (whoever they were).

Draft wouldn't mind seeing if the right value player matches the position:
1) OLB
2) NT
3) OG
4) OG

(do we have all our picks for once? Quick, someone trade away a 3rd or something)

Crusader 02-09-2016 04:27 PM

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The Super bowl showed me that it in many ways is a horrible spectacle. To much focus on half time shows and commercials and anything EXCEPT football. The darn game takes 5 hours to play. Compare that to the Soccer World Cup where its all about the game and the match takes 2 hours and that is including halftime.

And Von Miller is a BEAST.

Danno 02-09-2016 05:07 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 692461)
The Super bowl showed me that it in many ways is a horrible spectacle. To much focus on half time shows and commercials and anything EXCEPT football. The darn game takes 5 hours to play. Compare that to the Soccer World Cup where its all about the game and the match takes 2 hours and that is including halftime.

And Von Miller is a BEAST.

Dude, I am so with you on that. Its like the game itself isn't good enough so they have to add all kinds of crap to it.

I have nothing against pre-game festivities.. its a party. But once the game starts, it should be like all other games. Screw the damn halftime show. I've never seen a single one that actually added value to the Superbowl. Its like a tattoo on a beautiful woman. WHY???

jeanpierre 02-09-2016 07:13 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 692461)
The Super bowl showed me that it in many ways is a horrible spectacle. To much focus on half time shows and commercials and anything EXCEPT football. The darn game takes 5 hours to play. Compare that to the Soccer World Cup where its all about the game and the match takes 2 hours and that is including halftime.

And Von Miller is a BEAST.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 692464)
Dude, I am so with you on that. Its like the game itself isn't good enough so they have to add all kinds of crap to it.

I have nothing against pre-game festivities.. its a party. But once the game starts, it should be like all other games. Screw the damn halftime show. I've never seen a single one that actually added value to the Superbowl. Its like a tattoo on a beautiful woman. WHY???

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture651.jpg

Look, I generally try to be an optimist, but what's up with all the commercials beaming with political correctness projecting happy, happy, joy, joy feel-good to the butt-hurt chronically depressed disenfranchised crowd?!?

And I really don't need to know what the **** Obama thinks about football - the only football I want the prez focusing on is the one with the codes...

Miss the days of simple humored commercials like Tom Landry surrounded by Redskins and the Daughters of the Revolution asking Where's The Beef?

Look, I like my friends, getting together for the game; but when it's the Superbowl, you get the wives, some are nice ice candy (seen and not heard), but then some are in intolerable PMS mode and want to change the channel mid-play to see how the Puppy Bowl is going...and when you change it back, the kids start crying, oh for the love of St. Michael, their kids...whose vocabulary doesn't include the words "Don't Touch," "Stop Doing That," and "Daddy can we go home now"

ScottF 02-09-2016 07:24 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 692464)
Dude, I am so with you on that. Its like the game itself isn't good enough so they have to add all kinds of crap to it.

I have nothing against pre-game festivities.. its a party. But once the game starts, it should be like all other games. Screw the damn halftime show. I've never seen a single one that actually added value to the Superbowl. Its like a tattoo on a beautiful woman. WHY???

agree 100%-
all of this garbage is for the non-fan. when the Saints won I did not watch a single commercial- paused and fast-forwarded the DVR. don't even know who played at halftime

MaggieMayTB 02-09-2016 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 692479)
http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture651.jpg

Look, I generally try to be an optimist,...

Look, I like my friends, getting together for the game; but when it's the Superbowl, you get the wives, some are nice ice candy (seen and not heard), but then some are in intolerable PMS mode and want to change the channel mid-play to see how the Puppy Bowl is going...and when you change it back, the kids start crying, oh for the love of St. Michael, their kids...whose vocabulary doesn't include the words "Don't Touch," "Stop Doing That," and "Daddy can we go home now"

Look...non football people need to self segregate themselves or deport to areas not dominated by the rest of us.

SELF DEPORT

Wives or husbands, not involved or clueless, need to understand for this short period of time, one Sunday, a year, stands alone on the calendar to be void of mindless social responsibilities required in polite society.

And if, god willing, the Saints are in the Superbowl...again...climb on board the bus but please continue to self segregate because I am not gonna tell anyone AGAIN what team is in the BLACK jersey.

saintfan 02-09-2016 08:52 PM

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I sat down in front of the TV for the first time in the middle of Gaga. She didn't suck from all I could tell.

I left the room at the half, built another samitch, and arrived back at my chair just in time for the musical entertainment. As usual I was impressed with the Mars kid. The rest of it sucked, but it gave me time to eat my samitch, turn up another glass of orange juice, and I even had some primp time just before the 3rd quarter.

I thought the commercials were hit or miss. The one I liked most - the Dorito sonogram one, where the baby...well, I thought it was hilarious - is the one that offended the most I hear. That's funny.

Overall, I didn't find it overbearing but I paid little attention to the pre-game stuff. I could have walked to Super Bowl City at the port but 'never got around to it.'

Then again, I would have watched from dawn if I knew in the end Cam would blow the gasket he blew (and keeps blowing). So, you know, I thought it was a pretty good time.

RaginCajun83 02-09-2016 09:44 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 692464)
Dude, I am so with you on that. Its like the game itself isn't good enough so they have to add all kinds of crap to it.

I have nothing against pre-game festivities.. its a party. But once the game starts, it should be like all other games. Screw the damn halftime show. I've never seen a single one that actually added value to the Superbowl. Its like a tattoo on a beautiful woman. WHY???

I agree 1000% on you with all this: this year the game was boring, the commercials weren't funny and the halftime show sucked hairy dog balls. I could of done without even watching the game and I have never felt like that, not even during the blowouts of years past. The only reason they shove so much extra crap into this broadcast is so the NFL and the ad monkeys can make a gazillion dollars off of everyone

saintfan 02-09-2016 10:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 692489)
...this year the game was boring, the commercials weren't funny and the halftime show sucked hairy dog balls.

I SO apologize for this in advance...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YswlMzPC4L4/maxresdefault.jpg

WillSaints81 02-09-2016 10:31 PM

Re: What the Superbowl showed me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieMayTB (Post 692484)
Look...non football people need to self segregate themselves or deport to areas not dominated by the rest of us.

SELF DEPORT

Wives or husbands, not involved or clueless, need to understand for this short period of time, one Sunday, a year, stands alone on the calendar to be void of mindless social responsibilities required in polite society.

And if, god willing, the Saints are in the Superbowl...again...climb on board the bus but please continue to self segregate because I am not gonna tell anyone AGAIN what team is in the BLACK jersey.

Well I hope the saints don't choose the black jerseys if they get there. The NFC team gets to choose next year.

WillSaints81 02-09-2016 10:43 PM

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Btw not taking away from Denver, but Denver could have very well lost that SB had they played Green Bay. I mean Green Bay has a qb who you do not hold down twice. The packers were a OT loss away from the NFCCG and had they had Nelson playing they would have won. Compared to a blowout a few weeks earlier against that same team. GB also witnessed that sb defense week 8, playing them again would have been closer even without Nelson. With him, they win.

I know everyone wants to give all the credit to the defense but Cam has never been clutch against tough teams. Show me a team he's beat with a defense like that?

Tobias-Reiper 02-10-2016 12:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 692419)
Observations:
With Bruno Mars doing some kind of tribute to the late pedophile Michael Jackson?!?

Tangent musing: I never thought Jackson was a pedophile. I saw him as a disturbed individual who tried hard to live, as an adult, the childhood that was taken away from him; and the allegations, as money grabs.

Anyway, end of musing...

dizzle88 02-10-2016 12:47 AM

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What Superbowl 50 showed me;

There's a huge gap between #1 defense and #32 defense, unfortunately we have had to endure the latter for the past 2 seasons now.
Broncos D is one of the best I've seen, fast and physical, plays coverage perfectly and there are always at least 3 players around the ball carrier.

Why didn't we get Wade Phillips when we had a chance?

RailBoss 02-10-2016 09:52 AM

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Seems like Wade and Gary Kubiak became a package deal. So you probably couldn't get one without the other.


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