Wich Ex Saint would You want back?

fact-o-bake · 02-28-2005, 12:41 PM

Marc Bulger is a great answer!
LaRoi Glover is too similar a tackle to Young. They\'re both very good but, without Hand stuffing the run and taking up two blockers each play I don\'t think Glover would have the impact he previously had with us. Yeah, how bout having Hand back in 2000 form?

saintz08 · 02-28-2005, 12:42 PM

The one loss that hurt more than anyone else was Willy, 9-time probowler, future Hall of Famer, Roaf!!

Roaf was replaced by Turley and then Gandy , so there has been some stability at that position but the DT position has been all over the place since the releasal of Glover .

GumboBC · 02-28-2005, 12:46 PM

The one loss that hurt more than anyone else was Willy, 9-time probowler, future Hall of Famer, Roaf!!

Roaf was replaced by Turley and then Gandy , so there has been some stability at that position but the DT position has been all over the place since the releasal of Glover .

Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful.

If we would have had Roaf at LT with Deuce running behind him, there\'s no telling what kind of numbers Deuce would have put up. Not to mention Roaf\'s ability to keep the best pass rushers in the NFL at bay and allowing our QB time to get the ball to our speedy receivers.

progress · 02-28-2005, 12:47 PM

Willie Roaf and i see the disagreement in some earlier post, but I want him back to this day, and I\'ll bet if you ask Capers he would tell you he wished he had taken him in the supplemental draft.

BreesFN9 · 02-28-2005, 12:50 PM

Bulger eh?? Was he a draft pick they gave up or something? I didn\'t know he was a Saint, It wasn\'t on his player bio?

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187501

ScottyRo · 02-28-2005, 12:51 PM

I think adding Glover to the line with Young would work. You\'d have two high-motor guys always causing havoc. Opposing D\'s would have to double team one of \'em eventually to slow down some of the rush. Therefore, you\'d have the equivalent of a double team that a guy like Hand would draw.

saintz08 · 02-28-2005, 12:55 PM

Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful.

But at anytime with Turley or Gandy , have the Saints ranked dead last in protecting the QB ???

The DT position has gone down the toilet with a few first round picks following it since the releasal of Glover ...

GumboBC · 02-28-2005, 01:01 PM

Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful.

But at anytime with Turley or Gandy , have the Saints ranked dead last in protecting the QB ???

The DT position has gone down the toilet with a few first round picks following it since the releasal of Glover ...

When Turley was here, it was quite apparent that he had no business at LT. He was a very good RT, but he was also a CANCER. He was a CANCER with the Saints and he was a CANCER with the Rams.

And it\'s been quite apparant that Gandy was not the answer at LT. He\'s not the worst, but, the last couple of years, Gandy has not done a good job.

As far as Glover goes. His loss hurt. But he\'s far from being the \"sole\" reason for the decline of our run defense. We also lost Joe Johnson, Sammy Knight and several linebackers.

fact-o-bake · 02-28-2005, 01:09 PM

Yeah we drafted Bulger in I believe the 6th round in 2001. We cut him in training camp so he never made the final roster which is probably why it\'s not on his bio.
Hey everybody, Glover would not have the sacks he had if Hand wasn\'t making havoc with the interior of the O-lines. I love Glover and think he\'s a great leader/playmaker/intelligent football player, but if we don\'t have a quality NT, then every interior defender is somewhat hamstrung.

4saintspirit · 02-28-2005, 01:40 PM

If you can bring back someone from long ago than Ricky Jackson. If you are talking about someone playing I would say Willie Roaf.

02-28-2005, 12:41 PM	#21
fact-o-bake 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 136	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Marc Bulger is a great answer! LaRoi Glover is too similar a tackle to Young. They\'re both very good but, without Hand stuffing the run and taking up two blockers each play I don\'t think Glover would have the impact he previously had with us. Yeah, how bout having Hand back in 2000 form?
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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? The one loss that hurt more than anyone else was Willy, 9-time probowler, future Hall of Famer, Roaf!! Roaf was replaced by Turley and then Gandy , so there has been some stability at that position but the DT position has been all over the place since the releasal of Glover .
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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? The one loss that hurt more than anyone else was Willy, 9-time probowler, future Hall of Famer, Roaf!! Roaf was replaced by Turley and then Gandy , so there has been some stability at that position but the DT position has been all over the place since the releasal of Glover . Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful. If we would have had Roaf at LT with Deuce running behind him, there\'s no telling what kind of numbers Deuce would have put up. Not to mention Roaf\'s ability to keep the best pass rushers in the NFL at bay and allowing our QB time to get the ball to our speedy receivers.
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progress 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 114	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Willie Roaf and i see the disagreement in some earlier post, but I want him back to this day, and I\'ll bet if you ask Capers he would tell you he wished he had taken him in the supplemental draft.
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BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Bulger eh?? Was he a draft pick they gave up or something? I didn\'t know he was a Saint, It wasn\'t on his player bio? http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187501

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ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? I think adding Glover to the line with Young would work. You\'d have two high-motor guys always causing havoc. Opposing D\'s would have to double team one of \'em eventually to slow down some of the rush. Therefore, you\'d have the equivalent of a double team that a guy like Hand would draw.

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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful. But at anytime with Turley or Gandy , have the Saints ranked dead last in protecting the QB ??? The DT position has gone down the toilet with a few first round picks following it since the releasal of Glover ...
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02-28-2005, 01:01 PM	#28
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Turly sucked at LT, IMO. And Gandy has been anything but stable. He\'s done okay at times, but then other times he\'s looked flat awful. But at anytime with Turley or Gandy , have the Saints ranked dead last in protecting the QB ??? The DT position has gone down the toilet with a few first round picks following it since the releasal of Glover ... When Turley was here, it was quite apparent that he had no business at LT. He was a very good RT, but he was also a CANCER. He was a CANCER with the Saints and he was a CANCER with the Rams. And it\'s been quite apparant that Gandy was not the answer at LT. He\'s not the worst, but, the last couple of years, Gandy has not done a good job. As far as Glover goes. His loss hurt. But he\'s far from being the \"sole\" reason for the decline of our run defense. We also lost Joe Johnson, Sammy Knight and several linebackers.
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02-28-2005, 01:09 PM	#29
fact-o-bake 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 136	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? Yeah we drafted Bulger in I believe the 6th round in 2001. We cut him in training camp so he never made the final roster which is probably why it\'s not on his bio. Hey everybody, Glover would not have the sacks he had if Hand wasn\'t making havoc with the interior of the O-lines. I love Glover and think he\'s a great leader/playmaker/intelligent football player, but if we don\'t have a quality NT, then every interior defender is somewhat hamstrung.
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4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Wich Ex Saint would You want back? If you can bring back someone from long ago than Ricky Jackson. If you are talking about someone playing I would say Willie Roaf.
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