All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith

mighty12 · 02-28-2005, 06:48 PM

Can anyone think of the best way to move down for someone who might be a late 1st round sleeper at quaterback and maybe next year's Roethlesberger, Charlie Frye from Akron. His first game with a HUGE crowd, impressive. Showing at the combine, impressive. Scouts are saying he makes wise decisions in the pocket. He was a 64% passer through college and missed what? like 1 pass in the Senior bowl. We could move down in a trade for a disgruntled LB and kill two birds with one stone, but do 1 better by having an experienced MLB. Please any thoughts.

BlackandBlue · 02-28-2005, 06:56 PM

Also had a 2:1 touchdown to interception ratio, with far inferior talent to work with.

JKool · 02-28-2005, 06:57 PM

Welcome to the board Mighty12!

My only thought on this matter is this: under no circumstance should we trade up for Smith. If he is there at 16, then I think it depends on our FA and who is still there. I just don\'t see any reason to give something up for a QB at this point.

mighty12 · 02-28-2005, 07:14 PM

but that is the beauty of it we don\'t lose anything.....We gain! We gain picks and a player.....and when you think of Akron you don\'t think \"Wow they had the best WR ever\" do you? Yet He had great numbers.

spkb25 · 02-28-2005, 07:18 PM

i wouldnt trade up for smith with our many other concerns. if that guy is there and not a real strong o tackle take him. or if he cant be passed up then take him

D-buck47 · 02-28-2005, 07:59 PM

We need to stay put. The latest rumors have Rodgers one to San Fran and Smith 2 to Miami.They only guy I would want us to move up for is Derrick Johnson, it\'s been a long time since we\'ve had an impact linebacker.

BlackandBlue · 02-28-2005, 08:39 PM

We\'ll have to wait till the dust settles, Rodgers might regain the first pick, since the biggest charge against him was his height. Some questioned if he was even 6\'1\", but he measured at 6\'2\" at the combine, which is good for him. Ran a pretty good 40 time too, from what I remember, not that it matters. But he is a good athlete.

LKelley67 · 02-28-2005, 09:58 PM

it is improbable that either of the top 2 would drop to #16 but stranger things have happened. i think frye will be gone by #40. i am hoping wallter might last until then. he was rated above smith and rodgers at the start of last season. he has only dropped cuz of a shoulder injury. for a team not needing to insert him as starter immediately he is a gem imo.

GoldenTomb · 03-01-2005, 11:13 AM

You get what you pay for.

Late round QBs that blossom into rookies of the year are not the rule, they\'re the exception. In fact, Roethlisberger was the ONLY QB ever to get the rookie of the year. So you can rest assured that we won\'t be getting a Roethlisberger.

If the front office is serious about progressing and not stagnating in the NFL, then I don\'t see how there\'s any way that you pass up on an Alex Smith or at least try to trade up to have the opportunity to. Chances are if we trade up we\'ll be in good position to pick either DJ or A. Smith. We stay put, and we\'re doing the same thing we\'ve always been doing.

Winners make moves....losers just say \"let\'s give it one more year\".

saintswhodi · 03-01-2005, 11:20 AM

I agree with you Tomb, but I am also leery of what we will have to give up to move up for Smith. If they were gonna let him start as a rookie, I would be all for it. But moving up to take someone who is gonna sit the pine? I don\'t think I can buy into that. Moving up for DJ yes. I am not gonna say whether it would be right or wrong to trade AB and then make a move for Smith, cause it will start a war. I am only saying IF we were to move up for Smith, we better be trading AB cause with all the problems we have elsewhere, it would be foolish to lose more picks to move up for a guy who isn\'t starting.

02-28-2005, 06:56 PM	#2
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith Also had a 2:1 touchdown to interception ratio, with far inferior talent to work with.

02-28-2005, 06:57 PM	#3
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith Welcome to the board Mighty12! My only thought on this matter is this: under no circumstance should we trade up for Smith. If he is there at 16, then I think it depends on our FA and who is still there. I just don\'t see any reason to give something up for a QB at this point.

02-28-2005, 07:18 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith i wouldnt trade up for smith with our many other concerns. if that guy is there and not a real strong o tackle take him. or if he cant be passed up then take him

02-28-2005, 07:59 PM	#6
D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith We need to stay put. The latest rumors have Rodgers one to San Fran and Smith 2 to Miami.They only guy I would want us to move up for is Derrick Johnson, it\'s been a long time since we\'ve had an impact linebacker.
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02-28-2005, 08:39 PM	#7
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith We\'ll have to wait till the dust settles, Rodgers might regain the first pick, since the biggest charge against him was his height. Some questioned if he was even 6\'1\", but he measured at 6\'2\" at the combine, which is good for him. Ran a pretty good 40 time too, from what I remember, not that it matters. But he is a good athlete.

02-28-2005, 06:48 PM	#1
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith Can anyone think of the best way to move down for someone who might be a late 1st round sleeper at quaterback and maybe next year's Roethlesberger, Charlie Frye from Akron. His first game with a HUGE crowd, impressive. Showing at the combine, impressive. Scouts are saying he makes wise decisions in the pocket. He was a 64% passer through college and missed what? like 1 pass in the Senior bowl. We could move down in a trade for a disgruntled LB and kill two birds with one stone, but do 1 better by having an experienced MLB. Please any thoughts.

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02-28-2005, 07:14 PM	#4
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith but that is the beauty of it we don\'t lose anything.....We gain! We gain picks and a player.....and when you think of Akron you don\'t think \"Wow they had the best WR ever\" do you? Yet He had great numbers.

02-28-2005, 09:58 PM	#8
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith it is improbable that either of the top 2 would drop to #16 but stranger things have happened. i think frye will be gone by #40. i am hoping wallter might last until then. he was rated above smith and rodgers at the start of last season. he has only dropped cuz of a shoulder injury. for a team not needing to insert him as starter immediately he is a gem imo.

03-01-2005, 11:13 AM	#9
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith You get what you pay for. Late round QBs that blossom into rookies of the year are not the rule, they\'re the exception. In fact, Roethlisberger was the ONLY QB ever to get the rookie of the year. So you can rest assured that we won\'t be getting a Roethlisberger. If the front office is serious about progressing and not stagnating in the NFL, then I don\'t see how there\'s any way that you pass up on an Alex Smith or at least try to trade up to have the opportunity to. Chances are if we trade up we\'ll be in good position to pick either DJ or A. Smith. We stay put, and we\'re doing the same thing we\'ve always been doing. Winners make moves....losers just say \"let\'s give it one more year\".
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591

03-01-2005, 11:20 AM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	All this talk about moving up for Alex Smith I agree with you Tomb, but I am also leery of what we will have to give up to move up for Smith. If they were gonna let him start as a rookie, I would be all for it. But moving up to take someone who is gonna sit the pine? I don\'t think I can buy into that. Moving up for DJ yes. I am not gonna say whether it would be right or wrong to trade AB and then make a move for Smith, cause it will start a war. I am only saying IF we were to move up for Smith, we better be trading AB cause with all the problems we have elsewhere, it would be foolish to lose more picks to move up for a guy who isn\'t starting.