Free agency... You'll be disappointed if?

spkb25 · 03-12-2016, 07:30 AM

Id like to see a good DT. i'd even rather that than a guard at this point. Those are my two main areas of worry.

brees84 · 03-12-2016, 08:08 AM

Guard, DT and LB. I am really surprised we didn't sign FA guard in the first wave of free agency. There were some solid pickups by other teams. Fleener signing means nothing if Drew doesn't have time to throw the football.

CheramieIII · 03-12-2016, 09:20 AM

If we over spend and don't land an above average DT, CB or DE

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2016, 10:41 PM

I'll be disappointed if recent history repeats itself.

rezburna · 03-12-2016, 11:15 PM

I'm glossing over the free agents.

Zach Brown, 4-3 OLB
Justin Durant, 4-3 OLB
Bacarri Rambo, S
Dwight Freeney, 4-3 DE
Chris Long, 4-3 DE
Nick Fairley, DT
Terrance Knighton, DT
Evan Mathis, G

A lot of these guys would be good stop gaps to hold us over until we can find younger players. I think we need both of those LB'S though. That's a significant upgrade in speed at LB. Kikiha definitely needs to move to DE if we're running the 4-3.

Rugby Saint II · 03-13-2016, 05:34 PM

If we let talent go to our division rivals while we get none I will be extremely disappointed. This feels an awful lot like putting all your eggs in one basket.......which is common for a Sean Payton gambler attitude. I've seen him do it for years.

Last year Ireland held Payton in check. I don't know if he can do it again.

I've watched him become enamored with players and gush all over them who then under perform when called upon. I reference Lelito and Hill as my two most recent players who let the team and fans down.

I'm beginning to get that uneasy feeling again.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-14-2016, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We must do something to fix the most important part of the team, o line and d line. These must be addressed at least somewhat in free agency, we will not be able to rely solely on the draft.

I'm with you on the defensive front 7, which needs an upgrade to generate more consistent defensive pressure.

However, I'd like to hear some more detail as to exactly how the o-line is broken. This is my projected starting lineup for 2016:

Armstrong
Kelemete
Unger
Lelito
Peat

Strief as the backup tackle.

Now I will admit that Lelito isn't my favorite guy. Also I don't really see any depth behind this group. But I fail to see exactly how the above group is broken.

SFIAH

frydaddy · 03-14-2016, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I'm with you on the defensive front 7, which needs an upgrade to generate more consistent defensive pressure.

However, I'd like to hear some more detail as to exactly how the o-line is broken. This is my projected starting lineup for 2016:

Armstrong
Kelemete
Unger
Lelito
Peat

Strief as the backup tackle.

Now I will admit that Lelito isn't my favorite guy. Also I don't really see any depth behind this group. But I fail to see exactly how the above group is broken.

SFIAH

I think we need to upgrade at least one of those guard spots. Let Kelemete and Lelito fight it out for the other spot if necessary.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-14-2016, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

I think we need to upgrade at least one of those guard spots. Let Kelemete and Lelito fight it out for the other spot if necessary.

OK. There's not a lot of guards on FA lists such as:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gents-of-2016/

Evan Mathis for example would be the top guard left. The guy will be 34 and in his 12 season next year. So how exactly for example would that be an upgrade when the Saints let Evans, who is somewhat in the same situation, go?

SFIAH

hagan714 · 03-14-2016, 04:37 PM

lets see what the entire off season additions are first. so far? Over paying for targeted FA seems to be the theme song over the past few years.

03-12-2016, 07:30 AM	#11
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? Id like to see a good DT. i'd even rather that than a guard at this point. Those are my two main areas of worry.

03-12-2016, 08:08 AM	#12
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? Guard, DT and LB. I am really surprised we didn't sign FA guard in the first wave of free agency. There were some solid pickups by other teams. Fleener signing means nothing if Drew doesn't have time to throw the football. Utah_Saint likes this.
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03-12-2016, 09:20 AM	#13
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? I'll be disappointed if recent history repeats itself. foreverfan and NOLA54 like this.

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03-14-2016, 10:47 AM	#17
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? Originally Posted by blackangold We must do something to fix the most important part of the team, o line and d line. These must be addressed at least somewhat in free agency, we will not be able to rely solely on the draft. I'm with you on the defensive front 7, which needs an upgrade to generate more consistent defensive pressure. However, I'd like to hear some more detail as to exactly how the o-line is broken. This is my projected starting lineup for 2016: Armstrong Kelemete Unger Lelito Peat Strief as the backup tackle. Now I will admit that Lelito isn't my favorite guy. Also I don't really see any depth behind this group. But I fail to see exactly how the above group is broken. SFIAH

03-14-2016, 12:18 PM	#18
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'm with you on the defensive front 7, which needs an upgrade to generate more consistent defensive pressure. However, I'd like to hear some more detail as to exactly how the o-line is broken. This is my projected starting lineup for 2016: Armstrong Kelemete Unger Lelito Peat Strief as the backup tackle. Now I will admit that Lelito isn't my favorite guy. Also I don't really see any depth behind this group. But I fail to see exactly how the above group is broken. SFIAH I think we need to upgrade at least one of those guard spots. Let Kelemete and Lelito fight it out for the other spot if necessary.

03-14-2016, 04:20 PM	#19
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Free agency... You'll be disappointed if? Originally Posted by frydaddy I think we need to upgrade at least one of those guard spots. Let Kelemete and Lelito fight it out for the other spot if necessary. OK. There's not a lot of guards on FA lists such as: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gents-of-2016/ Evan Mathis for example would be the top guard left. The guy will be 34 and in his 12 season next year. So how exactly for example would that be an upgrade when the Saints let Evans, who is somewhat in the same situation, go? SFIAH

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