Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident

jeanpierre · 04-11-2016, 07:31 AM

Wow, just thinking...

IF the City of New Orleans thought settling with him over his father's death, which that whole scenario still baffles me, was costly - just think what it's going to cost taxpayers when they move and try Cardale Hayes in Shreveport or Monroe to find enough non-Saints fans to try him...

And before the Shreveport guys get their drawers in a bunch, have family in that part of the country who tell me there are as many Cowboy fans as Saints fans and as many Cowboy games on television as Saints games; so you're not lesser fans or any bullshinski like that...

|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 08:32 AM

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|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 12:14 PM

I just watched the Arizona '09 Divisional game, it was amazing how disruptive Will was for Warner... And Shanle! We as fans talked about how bad he was, but he was always around the ball! Hell, even Sedrick Ellis was doing his thing!

Makes me wish I still had every game of that season recorded

|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 12:25 PM

Will Smith's injured widow visited by mayor, NOPD chief | NOLA.com

Hayes' defense attorney John Fuller said Sunday that his client's vehicle was rear-ended moments before the fatal encounter, suggesting that collision involved either Smith's SUV or a Chevrolet Impala carrying associates of Smith, and that Hayes was giving pursuit.

And claiming self-defense

|Mitch| · 04-11-2016, 12:36 PM

Hayes did not enter a plea during an initial court appearance Sunday, and bond was set at $1 million. Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to bring the second-degree murder charge against Hayes. Conviction on that charge would bring an automatic life sentence.

Court records show that Hayes will appear before a state judge in Orleans Parish Criminal Court at 3 p.m. CT Monday.

The Dude · 04-11-2016, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Will Smith's injured widow visited by mayor, NOPD chief | NOLA.com

And claiming self-defense

https://twitter.com/Saints/status/719576017082277888

I don't think self defense will hold water. Smith was inside his vehicle when it happened. Even if Hayes went up to Smiths vehicle and Smith flashed a gun. The fact Hayes walked away, got a gun from his vehicle and then came back throws out self defense. That is revenge not self defense. When Hayes went back to his car the immediate threat was over. He could have stayed at his vehicle or fled. Instead he chose to get a gun and go back to engage the threat.
Witnesses have said they heard Hayes remark that he had a gun and then returned to his vehicle.

RaginCajun83 · 04-11-2016, 08:58 AM

RIP Will

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Wow, just thinking... IF the City of New Orleans thought settling with him over his father's death, which that whole scenario still baffles me, was costly - just think what it's going to cost taxpayers when they move and try Cardale Hayes in Shreveport or Monroe to find enough non-Saints fans to try him... And before the Shreveport guys get their drawers in a bunch, have family in that part of the country who tell me there are as many Cowboy fans as Saints fans and as many Cowboy games on television as Saints games; so you're not lesser fans or any bullshinski like that...
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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Twitter I just watched the Arizona '09 Divisional game, it was amazing how disruptive Will was for Warner... And Shanle! We as fans talked about how bad he was, but he was always around the ball! Hell, even Sedrick Ellis was doing his thing! Makes me wish I still had every game of that season recorded

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Will Smith's injured widow visited by mayor, NOPD chief \| NOLA.com Hayes' defense attorney John Fuller said Sunday that his client's vehicle was rear-ended moments before the fatal encounter, suggesting that collision involved either Smith's SUV or a Chevrolet Impala carrying associates of Smith, and that Hayes was giving pursuit. And claiming self-defense Twitter

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Twitter Twitter Hayes did not enter a plea during an initial court appearance Sunday, and bond was set at $1 million. Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to bring the second-degree murder charge against Hayes. Conviction on that charge would bring an automatic life sentence. Court records show that Hayes will appear before a state judge in Orleans Parish Criminal Court at 3 p.m. CT Monday.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Will Smith's injured widow visited by mayor, NOPD chief \| NOLA.com And claiming self-defense https://twitter.com/Saints/status/719576017082277888 I don't think self defense will hold water. Smith was inside his vehicle when it happened. Even if Hayes went up to Smiths vehicle and Smith flashed a gun. The fact Hayes walked away, got a gun from his vehicle and then came back throws out self defense. That is revenge not self defense. When Hayes went back to his car the immediate threat was over. He could have stayed at his vehicle or fled. Instead he chose to get a gun and go back to engage the threat. Witnesses have said they heard Hayes remark that he had a gun and then returned to his vehicle.
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