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Good read I found posted on another board. Goes into Brooks' production vs. salary:

Analyst: Saints need a backup plan
12:30 PM CST on Wednesday, March 2, 2005
Kevin Held / "The Analyst"

Perhaps the biggest complain and/or gripe I hear from Saints fans is, “We should’ve kept Jake!� Yeah, I know, Delhomme has gone onto bigger and better things (a Super Bowl appearance, for instance) while the Saints continue to wallow in mediocrity. For those fans—hell, for most fans—Aaron Brooks is the problem.

Aaron Brooks' numbers indicate he is not worth the same salary as a top five quarterback.

“Get rid of Brooks!� they shout at the top of their lungs to a choir of the already converted. “Brooks Bashers� know how to mobilize and get their voices heard, especially following a turgid performance by the embattled quarterback. Each of them wishes to be the one to personally give A.B. his walking papers. To a certain extent, I agree with these rabid fans.

....and a little further down:

Here’s more food for thought: my inside source, “guy who knows a guy,� told me a couple months ago that Brooks’ total salary from last year (2004) was third highest in the NFL, behind Culpepper and Manning. I don’t know about you, folks, but when I think of the three best quarterbacks in the league, I certainly don’t envision Aaron Brooks standing next to Culpepper and Manning.

http://www.wwltv.com/sports/stories/....fbda842d.html

Although I'm usually not one to take part in the Brooks debates, you freaks have at it. :)

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Some nice work! I just wanted to put my 2 cents worth before it became a 30 page thread. I like Brooks......That\'s all. Is he top 3 in QB\'s......Not Even close! Can he be?......I think so. Hope he gets another full season to try....After that all my bets are off.

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Ah, the good old days. Not even gonna touch it though. :P

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Brooks was paid $3.5 million in 2004, McNabb was paid $4 million, so I immediately question the source. This information is not that hard to find.

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I agree with most of that. Most good strategists in ALL walks of life utilize the concept of a contingency plan. It confuses me why the team has not addressed this situation yet. I don\'t see how even the BIGGEST AB supporter could argue against bringing someone else in to challenge, if for no other reason than to push him.

True the defense sucked and true the offense did not live up to pre-season billing(again), but the buck for the offense\'s woes stops at AB. It has nothing to do with AB\'s intelligence or ability. While I will admit that he is not the brightest QB in the league, he definitely has enough brain cells to succeed. And no one questions his ability. He simply has no motivation to improve his game. I\'ve been to the games, I\'ve watched the games, and I can see it. He has not put in the work to improve on reading defenses. He still throws off his back foot sometimes. He doesn\'t protect the ball. He doesn\'t know when to take a sack. These are all things that CAN be corrected if he gave a hoot about doing it at all. Sadly...these are things that will not improve no matter HOW well the defense plays or if the offense plays up to their potential.

How long does the club wait for him to start caring? I know AB\'s die hard supporters will say that a great defense will carry the team and we don\'t need a superstar QB(i.e. \'00 Ravens, \'02 Bucs). HELLO!!! This team has obviously been built in a high-powered balanced West coast offense mold, not in a ball control, shutdown defense mold. Therefore they have made the team increasingly more dependent on the success of it\'s offense, and AB IS the leader of the offense. Ultimately he has to accept responsibilty for the offense\'s shortcomings(EVEN IF IT ISN\'T ALL HIS FAULT) and take it upon himself to improve it. This is what winning QBs do.

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...the article says \"total salary\".. probably they are including things like roster /performance bonuses?

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Lets not get our panties in a wad here... Anyone of us could have written an articel filled with opions and false information. This is what it is... someone opinion, even inaccurate info.

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If Brooks was paid more in performance bonuses than McNabb was, I might pull a danno and go kick a cat.

[Edited on 2/3/2005 by BlackandBlue]

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Yeah well people listen to Mel Kiper and John Clayton and list mock drafts here all the time. Those are all the same thing....opinions. You don\'t think that some of the more successful teams in the league take opinions of some of these people into account, even though they might not admit it???

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yall are too wishy washy with aaron brooks during this past season everyone wanted him gone and the offseason gets here now yall want him to stay. :casstet:

He has talent but doesn\'t know how to use him. Let him go and do stand up with his twin martin lawrence.

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Hey guys! C\'mon! Brooks is not the problem. Pay no attention to the man behind the curatin. There are bigger problems here!!!

This is nearly as good a misdirection as the \"nevermind the WAR raging somewhere that nobody cares about, let\'s talk about gays\" of the last election.

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..well, it depends what the qualification of \"performance\" is... :)

McNabb\'s performance escalator: 20 TD\'s in a season
Brooks\' performance escalator: successfully opened box of Corn Flakes during breakfast without fumbling...

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WTF is all that about?

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Whoa! That almost reeks of political banter which under Section 17 Article 12 Paranthetical abreviation 1.6 is in clear violation of board policy!

And of all people!!! :P

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whodat i 100% understood your post. and you are 100% right. give people something to concentrate on that really doesnt matter. then watch all the morons get hyped up about it as if it does. all the while keep their minds off of what is really going down. hey anyone for a national i.d. (smart card)

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I don\'t think you\'ve heard anyone saying not to bring someone else in. It just that the point may be lost in the ride Brooks out on the rails debate.

As to the rest of the message, I\'ll take a page from the Whodi book and simply leave it alone.

SFIAH

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WhoDat

Why did you feel the need to make that statement?

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From reading some of his posts on the EE Board, I think he dislikes George W. even more than Haslett.

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So leave it in the EE board.

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Wow...I didn\'t know Haslett doesn\'t like W!!

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:P

I replaced dberce\'s water with booze earlier.

The evil BnG waterboy strikes again!!!

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Anything Brooks earns over a $1, and he is overpaid. He worked hard for the current contract and ever since has been a slacky!

Strong arm and WEAK mind! Kick him to the curb and start anew...it cannot be worse!

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WhoDat

Up for a little open debate ....... :EVILLE:

[Edited on 3/3/2005 by saintz08]

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CALM DOWN PEOPLE. It was an ANALogy.... why are tensions so high? Did people have real expectations about the Saints making moves in FA this year? Well there\'s your problem....

I, unlike BILLY, didn\'t mention ANY politician or political party. The point was to show the misdirection.


Rumor has it that WhoDat hired some Big Black Man named Bubba who looks like the guy in BnB\'s avitar to head over to Texas and thrash the sh-t out of BnB for getting his damn blood pressure up so high! :) Love ya B....

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Clueless f\'ing idiots

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I know what it was. It doesn\'t bother me, but it does bother others. To the point that Halo banned any political discussions from the board.
I didn\'t post what I did for myself, but for those that it bothers.
Case in point.

See what you did? I can hear the years being stripped from Danno\'s life, his blood is boiling so much. :P
I called Billy to the floor for creating a thread that\'s purpose was to get under the skin of others. How could I turn a blind eye to a political jab that\'s only purpose is the same results?
This Bubba fella, this your new boyfriend you were telling me about? :P


[Edited on 3/3/2005 by BlackandBlue]

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Anyone familiar with the term Red Herring?

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Brooks 2003

Brooks, Aaron

Base salary $ 1,500,000
Prorated signing Bonus $ 5,750,000
Incentive clauses $ 250,000
Total Salary $ 7,500,000
Cap Value $ 3,733,333

So Brooks made about 2 million in 2003 , so on an escalated contract in 2004 , 3.5 milion could be about right .

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Sheesh, talk about getting your blood pressure up...

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:mcgregor:

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Be cool Danno - it\'s a joke man... or sarcasm. You can publicly flog me at the next home Falcons game, ok?

Nah B, but he said he\'d like to be your boyfriend. :)