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jeanpierre

04-14-2016 09:47 AM

Blockbuster!!! Titans Trade Top Draft Pick To LA Rams...How it affects Saints?!?

Titans trade first overall pick to Rams | ProFootballTalk

Now to consider how this will affect the Saints?!?

brees84

04-14-2016 09:51 AM

Re: Blockbuster!!! Titans Trade Top Draft Pick To LA Rams...How it affects Saints?!?

Better players for us at #12

Crusader

04-14-2016 10:00 AM

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Well it will guarantee that atleast one QB will be picked before the #12 pick because I can't see the Rams trading like that to get anything else.

ScottF

04-14-2016 10:04 AM

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overpaid
way overpaid

brees84

04-14-2016 10:08 AM

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Rams draft Goff
Browns draft Wentz

That's 2 QB's already. Then you have Eagles or Niners who could reach for Lynch

ChrisXVI

04-14-2016 10:24 AM

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I don't think it effects us at all in terms of any great players sliding down to us. However, if the Titans want to use one of their new 3rd round picks to trade up to 12 I'd be more than happy to trade down to 15 with them.

Beastmode

04-14-2016 10:24 AM

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Historically, it almost never works out for either team yet, here we are again..

K Major

04-14-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 699463)

I don't think it effects us at all in terms of any great players sliding down to us.

Jerry Jones could flip the script and grab one of the QB's instead of the obvious need they have (Bosa), leaving yet another defensive player on the board. The desperation moves are not over.

Expect it to get crazy.

|Mitch|

04-14-2016 10:35 AM

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That's A LOT to spend to move up...

brees84

04-14-2016 10:49 AM

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Rugby Saint II

04-14-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 699471)

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...38173072654336

This is what I was thinking. It would be nice to see more options on defense at 12.:bng:

jeanpierre

04-14-2016 11:20 AM

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Quarterbacks! Quarterbacks! Get your fresh fish Quarterbacks!

Looking at the top 12 picks with teams that could take a quarterback...

1. Los Angeles Rams (7-9) Quarterback
2. Cleveland Browns (3-13) Quarterback
3. San Diego Chargers (4-12)
4. Dallas Cowboys (4-12) Quarterback
5. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11)
6. Baltimore Ravens (5-11)
7. San Francisco 49ers (5-11) Quarterback
8. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) Quarterback
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-10)
10. New York Giants (6-10)
11. Chicago Bears (6-10) Quarterback
12. New Orleans Saints (7-9)

K Major

04-14-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 699475)

Quarterbacks! Quarterbacks! Get your fresh fish Quarterbacks!

Looking at the top 12 picks with teams that could take a quarterback...

8. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) Quarterback

I think Philly is a strong candidate to draft a QB @ 8. Even with the new deal for Bradford, many aren't sold on him or his health in the city of Brotherly Love.

hagan714

04-14-2016 11:51 AM

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no qb in the draft was worth it. as a matter of fact i can not think of one ever.

not sold on clevland taking a QB to be honest
not sold on dallas taking a QB either
not sold on SF taking a QB as a matter of fact
I am not even sold on LA taking a QB

there is a good chance all the QBs will be on the board at 12

brees84

04-14-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 699485)

I am not even sold on LA taking a QB

Then this would be the worst trade up ever.

Only healthy Jaylon Smith is worth this type of investment.

|Mitch|

04-14-2016 12:12 PM

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Walter's take on the trade:

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Rams acquire No. 1 overall pick, Nos. 113 and 117 from Titans for Nos. 15, 43, 45 and 76, and 2017 first- and third-rounders
Four years ago, the Rams dealt the No. 2 overall choice to the Redskins for a king's ransom of draft picks, which Washington used to select Robert Griffin. That was deemed as a great trade at the time for the Redskins, who were desperate for a franchise quarterback. That move would look outstanding at first, as Griffin led the team to the playoffs as a rookie, but flamed out ever since. Because Washington surrendered so many draft choices, its depth was shot. The team finally recovered in 2016, though it needed the quarterback from the best squad in the division to go down in order to claim the NFC East.

It's funny to see that the Rams are on the other side of things. They've soared all the way from No. 15 to move in position to select a franchise quarterback. As I tweeted out, Charlie Campbell reported two months ago that the Rams love Carson Wentz, so that's apparently whom they are going to take.

Let me clear here: I understand the importance of a franchise quarterback. For those who have been reading the site for a while, you know that I do. However, surrendering countless resources like this is a sketchy move to begin with, even if it's for a highly rated prospect like Griffin was four years ago. Depth is extremely important, so with all of these picks gone - as well as several key free agents departing this offseason - the Rams won't be very deep. Like the Ravens, they'll be done after incurring a couple of key injuries.

Making matters worse, this is the wrong year to trade up for a signal-caller. It's not like last year when there were two studs - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota - atop the class. And it's not like next year when Deshaun Watson will be available (click here for my 2017 NFL Mock Draft.) This class is very weak, and it's headlined by two quarterbacks other teams have been lukewarm on. Neither Wentz nor Jared Goff is a slam-dunk franchise quarterback. In fact, it's quite possible that both will flop. If so, the Rams will be horrible for a very long time.

I can't give Los Angeles a Millen grade for this. At least it's trying, and it's adding some excitement, which is needed in Los Angeles, where people haven't expressed enthusiasm for pro football in the past. However, I have to penalize them with a "D" grade. This is an awfully risky move that has a huge chance of backfiring.

As for the Titans, this is an unbelievable trade, worthy of an A+. They won't be able to obtain a blue-chip prospect anymore, but as mentioned, this class wasn't good to begin with. The 2017 draft will be loaded, however, so Tennessee will really be able to strengthen its roster with two potential top-10 selections. Having three second-rounders this year will be enormous for depth purposes.

At 15, I expect Tennessee to do what it was planning to do at No. 1 - target a tackle or a defensive back. Jack Conklin, Mackensie Alexander and Eli Apple are some of the names that will be under consideration. We'll have a better idea once we talk to our sources in the coming days, so check back in our 2016 NFL Draft Rumors page.

Oh, and two things: First, I'll be updating my 2016 NFL Mock Draft later today, and I'll also be posting a winners and losers column for this trade.

Second, Would it kill the Rams not to conduct a trade so early? The five fans they have in Los Angeles were all asleep when the trade was announced at 6:15 a.m. locally. How are the Rams expected to build up excitement in their new city by making big moves when everyone is still in bed?

Grade for Rams - D
Grade for Titans - A+

K Major

04-14-2016 12:18 PM

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The Titans have 6 picks in the top 75 selections. That is what I call controlling the top end of the NFL Draft.

If their scouts have done their homework, the Titans should have something in a few years. They already have a young promising QB with a year of experience under his belt.

neugey

04-14-2016 12:21 PM

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LA Rams are going balls deep to get the #1 pick and make big hype because they know that Dodgers, Angels, Lakers, Clippers, USC, UCLA are all major draws.

hagan714

04-14-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 699486)

Then this would be the worst trade up ever.

Only healthy Jaylon Smith is worth this type of investment.

it already is. rank this group against the past two years of QB and not one is a top first. matter of fact lucky to make round 1 at all

RaginCajun83

04-14-2016 12:37 PM

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Making matters worse, this is the wrong year to trade up for a signal-caller. It's not like last year when there were two studs - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota - atop the class. And it's not like next year when Deshaun Watson will be available (click here for my 2017 NFL Mock Draft.) This class is very weak, and it's headlined by two quarterbacks other teams have been lukewarm on. Neither Wentz nor Jared Goff is a slam-dunk franchise quarterback. In fact, it's quite possible that both will flop. If so, the Rams will be horrible for a very long time.

Been saying this for weeks

The Rams got fleeced on this trade. There are QBs like Hackenberg or Hogan that can be drafted later in the draft without giving up a king's ransom to move up. IMO Hogan is the best QB in this class

Euphoria

04-14-2016 12:41 PM

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Welcome to Los Angeles Rams... geez

RaginCajun83

04-14-2016 12:49 PM

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i normally don't yell conspiracy but the LA Rams, their first year back make a trade to get the first overall pick ....

http://i.imgur.com/fcdLPFX.jpg

ChrisXVI

04-14-2016 01:04 PM

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I feel bad for Carson Wentz. By all accounts he's the one the Rams want instead of Jared Goff so he'll be going from North Dakota State to being the face of the franchise in L.A. with a head coach who doesn't know a damn thing about QB's. Kid doesn't stand a chance.

Euphoria

04-14-2016 01:20 PM

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I think this does affect us a bit...

I mean there are pretty much certain that there is going to be QB's and 2 spots before us... if another team senses a run on the position someone could go ahead and pull the trigger.

Even though there aren't the greatest of QB's the position is one of dire need to some teams. More of a run on QB's frees up higher rated D players falling to us that we may have to take someone on D instead of another WR.

SmashMouth

04-14-2016 02:21 PM

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We just got way better on defense. So.....

Championship!

Papa Voodoo

04-14-2016 02:26 PM

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I hope we draft a strong D player, but if Treadwell is on the board at 12 I expect we pick him.

voodooido

04-14-2016 02:59 PM

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49'ers may now reach for Lynch. That would be awesome. 3 qb's gone in the top 10 picks giving us a top 6 defensive player sitting at 12. Very good chance the Titans may trade up a couple to grab the OT they want. 3 projected to go in the top10-15.

nola_swammi

04-14-2016 04:56 PM

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This going to make a very interesting hardknocks

jeanpierre

04-14-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 699497)

Don't know about that Chris...

That's still one helluva defense without Laurinaitis and Long...

Then you've got that young offensive line with all those high draft picks...

Not to mention they've got Gurley and he's got a season under his belt and will have a good understanding of pass protection assignments unlike his rookie season...

That's not a bad situation for a young, talented quarterback with a good head on his shoulders...

jeanpierre

04-14-2016 06:51 PM

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We won't know how much the Rams overpaid for a couple of seasons...

But consider, the Rams, despite their record, have had a top 5 defense for several years...

And they have a young strong running game...

They've lacked what we take for granted - a quarterback...

So if they go to the playoffs after how ever long and win even one playoff game in their first year in Los Angeles...

Anyways, just wait and see how this quarterback, if it is a quarterback, shakes out...

ChrisXVI

04-14-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 699523)

You know what JP? I had a brain fart and forgot about Gurley. You're right that defense and a running game is a must for a rookie QB.

spkb25

04-14-2016 07:08 PM

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stupid by the rams. Tell ya what though, that is Fisher's exit if it fails.

rezburna

04-14-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 699524)

I agree. They've been a QB away from stealing that division.

CheramieIII

04-14-2016 11:06 PM

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No change for the Saints. We still take Jarran or A'Shawn

burningmetal

04-15-2016 01:34 AM

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I first saw the news breaking on a crawl, and it seems like it was never ending. Pick after pick, after pick given up by the Rams. I thought I was reading some fan's conjured up dream of what he hoped his team would get back for trading the #1 pick.

This is a mistake for the Rams, even if whoever they take (presumably Goff) works out, unless he ends up being the next truly great QB in the league. I don't see greatness in any QB they might take. I won't be at all surprised if this is remembered for a very long time as one of the dumbest trades ever.

What the Saints did in '99 was worse, on the surface, but at least we later got a couple first rounders back for Ricky Williams.

Crusader

04-15-2016 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 699551)

What the Saints did in '99 was worse, on the surface, but at least we later got a couple first rounders back for Ricky Williams.

That was spent on Jonathan Sullivan...

burningmetal

04-15-2016 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 699552)

That was spent on Jonathan Sullivan...

That was one of them, yeah. The other was Charles Grant, who was good for a few years anyway. Then they go and trade up the next year to draft the highly overrated Sullivan. I never liked it, even before he fell flat on his face.

Randy Mueller worked hard to turn the Saints into a playoff team in 2000. '01 didn't go well, but he drafted Deuce McCallister that year most likely with the idea that he'd eventually trade Ricky. He got back what turned out to be two first rounders, and the opportunity was there to significantly improve the team. But no, Benson fires Mueller out of nowhere for no reason other than ego, I can only assume, and leaves it up to Loomis and the goons. They screw it all up and send the Saints right back into purgatory. But Loomis kept his job. Then got lucky on a coach and a shot in the dark with an injured QB-turned hall of famer, and was anointed a "genius".

People who worship Loomis, nowadays, seem to have forgotten that past.. He's made a string of bad moves in recent years, again, yet Benson won't touch him. I'll never understand that.

CheramieIII

04-15-2016 06:54 AM

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Ricky who? lol We won't be known for the worst trade in history anymore. They gave up 2 first round picks and 2,000 more? WOW! What a bunch of dumbasses.

hagan714

04-15-2016 07:37 AM

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1. Los Angeles Rams (7-9) - Jared Goff - home town sell them tickets pick
2. Cleveland Browns (3-13) - Joey Bosa - another home town ticket selling pick
3. San Diego Chargers (4-12) - Laremy Tunsil
4. Dallas Cowboys (4-12) - Jalen Ramsey
5. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11) - DeForest Buckner
6. Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Myles Jack
7. San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Ronnie Stanley
8. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) - Vernon Hargreaves III
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-10) - Sheldon Rankins
10. New York Giants (6-10) - Ezekiel Elliott
11. Chicago Bears (6-10) - Shaq Lawson

12. New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Carson Wentz????

Euphoria

04-15-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 699572)

You have my vote for post of the day!!! LOL.

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