NFL Draft Needs: Saints

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-19-2016, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Saints identity is that they roll on offense with Drew Brees...

Gotta replace Colston with a serious threat (e.g. Laquon Treadwell)

Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs.

There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success.

The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing.

The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category.

Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years:

Year PF PA PD Record
2015 408 476 -68 7-9
2014 401 424 -23 7-9
2013 414 304 110 11-5
2012 461 454 7 7-9
2011 547 339 208 13-3
2010 384 307 77 11-5
2009 510 341 169 13-3
2008 463 393 70 8-8

The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs.

If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that.

SFIAH

SmashMouth · 04-19-2016, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs.

There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success.

The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing.

The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category.

Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years:

Year PF PA PD Record
2015 408 476 -68 7-9
2014 401 424 -23 7-9
2013 414 304 110 11-5
2012 461 454 7 7-9
2011 547 339 208 13-3
2010 384 307 77 11-5
2009 510 341 169 13-3
2008 463 393 70 8-8

The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs.

If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that.

SFIAH

And the winner......

K Major · 04-19-2016, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that.

This ^^^. Gotta find a way to get off the field on 3rd down.

WillSaints81 · 04-19-2016, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs.

There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success.

The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing.

The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category.

Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years:

Year PF PA PD Record
2015 408 476 -68 7-9
2014 401 424 -23 7-9
2013 414 304 110 11-5
2012 461 454 7 7-9
2011 547 339 208 13-3
2010 384 307 77 11-5
2009 510 341 169 13-3
2008 463 393 70 8-8

The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs.

If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that.

SFIAH

But look at the dropoff in PF from 2013 on. Also the lowest scoring year was 2010 but that was a lot to do with Brees' injury. And that schedule was pretty bad.

The big question is if we have clutch receivers outside of Cooks to grind out games and I guess we'll see.

04-19-2016, 03:36 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: NFL Draft Needs: Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Saints identity is that they roll on offense with Drew Brees... Gotta replace Colston with a serious threat (e.g. Laquon Treadwell) Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs. There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success. The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing. The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category. Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years: Year PF PA PD Record 2015 408 476 -68 7-9 2014 401 424 -23 7-9 2013 414 304 110 11-5 2012 461 454 7 7-9 2011 547 339 208 13-3 2010 384 307 77 11-5 2009 510 341 169 13-3 2008 463 393 70 8-8 The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs. If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that. SFIAH lumm0x, jnormand, foreverfan and 4 others like this.
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04-19-2016, 03:43 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,726 Blog Entries: 29	Re: NFL Draft Needs: Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs. There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success. The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing. The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category. Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years: Year PF PA PD Record 2015 408 476 -68 7-9 2014 401 424 -23 7-9 2013 414 304 110 11-5 2012 461 454 7 7-9 2011 547 339 208 13-3 2010 384 307 77 11-5 2009 510 341 169 13-3 2008 463 393 70 8-8 The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs. If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that. SFIAH And the winner......

04-19-2016, 03:46 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL Draft Needs: Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that. This ^^^. Gotta find a way to get off the field on 3rd down. SaintFanInATLHELL and dizzle88 like this.

04-19-2016, 06:38 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: NFL Draft Needs: Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Saints identity has resulted in 2 consecutive 7-9 seasons out of the playoffs. There is little correlation between additional offensive firepower, wins, and playoff success. The last 2 years the Saints' offense was in the top 10 in every positive statistical category except rushing. The last 2 years the Saints' defense was in the bottom 10,5,2, or 1 in every defensive category. Take a look at the point for, against, differential, and record for the last 8 years: Year PF PA PD Record 2015 408 476 -68 7-9 2014 401 424 -23 7-9 2013 414 304 110 11-5 2012 461 454 7 7-9 2011 547 339 208 13-3 2010 384 307 77 11-5 2009 510 341 169 13-3 2008 463 393 70 8-8 The correlation is between wins and points differential. Even in years where the offense scores a ton of points (2008,2012) the record was not real good. However each and every year the defense held their points down under 350 (which is 21.9 points per game) the team won more than 10 games and went to the playoffs. If I have learned nothing else the last 2 years is that the team could not close out games because they couldn't make a stop when it was absolutely crucial. There is no offensive player in the draft that can change that. SFIAH But look at the dropoff in PF from 2013 on. Also the lowest scoring year was 2010 but that was a lot to do with Brees' injury. And that schedule was pretty bad. The big question is if we have clutch receivers outside of Cooks to grind out games and I guess we'll see.

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