This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning

44Champs · 04-20-2016, 06:04 PM

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it

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ChrisXVI · 04-20-2016, 06:07 PM

Take a couple of days off WillSaints81... You need a break.

neugey · 04-21-2016, 09:28 AM

I think OP is overthinking it and I don't think Sean is holding back. This is a win-now league, that would be really stupid. Perhaps Sean hit a creative slump or has been distracted. Hope this year he gets that spark back or he could lose this team - figuratively and/or literally.

burningmetal · 04-21-2016, 12:14 PM

I've criticized Payton's redundant play calling over the last couple of years, but to suggest that he's basically sandbagging is.... less than credible.

If he wants to get back at Goodell (who doesn't?) then wouldn't he want to win even more? In what way does holding back now, to win later, help? That doesn't make him look good. So it makes no sense, period.

WillSaints81 · 04-22-2016, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it

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I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed.

spkb25 · 04-22-2016, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed.

no offense, but this is absurd. there is not a coach in the nfl that says lets make it harder to win. it is hard enough.

jeanpierre · 04-22-2016, 08:49 PM

Payton sandbag?!? No way?!? Could have done it the past two seasons and really secured a better slot in the draft?!?

Now he'll play ya some mean possum, but never sandbag...

Audiotom · 04-23-2016, 01:50 AM

Goodell has his zebras all over turning the tide in Saints games or Carolina games (2013 rob of the Patriots)

The Greg Olsen trap in our last Pather game

lee909 · 04-23-2016, 03:12 AM

Only one thing keeps me up at night...........

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billyt81 · 04-24-2016, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Its your choice if you don't want to believe it but it's like this serious version of Payton to not play his hand unless everything is going right. That's not farfetched.

The Saints from last year couldve snuck into the playoffs if a handful of plays went the other way. I know Payton tried to win at least early in the season.

04-20-2016, 06:04 PM	#21
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk mleg1972 likes this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning Take a couple of days off WillSaints81... You need a break.

04-21-2016, 09:28 AM	#23
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,719 Blog Entries: 13	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning I think OP is overthinking it and I don't think Sean is holding back. This is a win-now league, that would be really stupid. Perhaps Sean hit a creative slump or has been distracted. Hope this year he gets that spark back or he could lose this team - figuratively and/or literally.

04-21-2016, 12:14 PM	#24
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning I've criticized Payton's redundant play calling over the last couple of years, but to suggest that he's basically sandbagging is.... less than credible. If he wants to get back at Goodell (who doesn't?) then wouldn't he want to win even more? In what way does holding back now, to win later, help? That doesn't make him look good. So it makes no sense, period.

04-22-2016, 12:37 AM	#25
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning Originally Posted by 44Champs I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed.

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04-22-2016, 08:45 PM	#26
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed. no offense, but this is absurd. there is not a coach in the nfl that says lets make it harder to win. it is hard enough. 44Champs likes this.

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning Goodell has his zebras all over turning the tide in Saints games or Carolina games (2013 rob of the Patriots) The Greg Olsen trap in our last Pather game

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: This kept me up all night last night and am even thinking of it this morning Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Its your choice if you don't want to believe it but it's like this serious version of Payton to not play his hand unless everything is going right. That's not farfetched. The Saints from last year couldve snuck into the playoffs if a handful of plays went the other way. I know Payton tried to win at least early in the season.

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