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Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 Drew is the best Saint to ever play for our organization and it isn't even close I agree but we need him to extend his contract now or trade his butt to a team that has ...

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Old 04-24-2016, 12:09 PM   #1
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

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Drew is the best Saint to ever play for our organization and it isn't even close
I agree but we need him to extend his contract now or trade his butt to a team that has a ton of picks. Next year we get nothing for him.
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Old 04-24-2016, 01:09 PM   #2
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Drew won't go anywhere. Not for at least three to four years. I'm not worried about that. I am a little worried that Drew isn't as team oriented as I hoped and money will be too tight to win a Super bowl while he is under contract.
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This wasn't me saying this. I was providing a link where I got from SR.
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:00 PM   #4
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Brees vs Archie -
Accuracy: Brees
Mobility: Archie
Leadership: Brees
Heart: Push

I'll take Brees


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How can you compare Archie/Drew? Different football, different teams; and until someone finds a time machine arguing about it is pointless...
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

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How can you compare Archie/Drew? Different football, different teams; and until someone finds a time machine arguing about it is pointless...

True, its all opinion, but I've watched football all my life thru the 70's, 80's and 90's and its my opinion that Archie's talents would be phenomenal with today's rules favoring offenses.

It is impossible to compare different era's, but I think Archie would probably be comparable to an Aaron Rodgers in today's NFL.

Perhaps a Steve Young with a stronger arm?

I'd love to hear some of you older guys like me compare him to a current player.
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

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True, its all opinion, but I've watched football all my life thru the 70's, 80's and 90's and its my opinion that Archie's talents would be phenomenal with today's rules favoring offenses.

It is impossible to compare different era's, but I think Archie would probably be comparable to an Aaron Rodgers in today's NFL.

Perhaps a Steve Young with a stronger arm?

I'd love to hear some of you older guys like me compare him to a current player.
You pretty much nailed it with the Steve Young comparison...

Today's game would definitely be Andrew Luck...

In fact, watch Luck getting battered and beaten as he has been is making me have Archie flashbacks...

For the Archie haters, you are just tipping your hands that you either didn't watch Archie play or understand little about football...

Think one of you mentioned accuracy?!?

Drew doesn't come close to threading needles; Coach Payton has a brilliant system of timing, whereby Drew throws into buckets on pre-snap reads...

In fact, though he was cut that season, Brees participated in an ill-advised training camp passing competition which Ryan Griffin smoked him...

Brees' strength is in no way his arm, and to suggest is laughable; what he has is a near-perfect grasp of what Coach Payton has installed - that's the strength...

If Archie had been able to develop with Coach Payton, Peyton and Eli would have been chasing Dad's shadow their whole careers...

Archie never had a line, and what receivers or backs he had were sky-high, drunk on game day...

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You pretty much nailed it with the Steve Young comparison...

Today's game would definitely be Andrew Luck...

In fact, watch Luck getting battered and beaten as he has been is making me have Archie flashbacks...

For the Archie haters, you are just tipping your hands that you either didn't watch Archie play or understand little about football...

Think one of you mentioned accuracy?!?

Drew doesn't come close to threading needles; Coach Payton has a brilliant system of timing, whereby Drew throws into buckets on pre-snap reads...

In fact, though he was cut that season, Brees participated in an ill-advised training camp passing competition which Ryan Griffin smoked him...

Brees' strength is in no way his arm, and to suggest is laughable; what he has is a near-perfect grasp of what Coach Payton has installed - that's the strength...

If Archie had been able to develop with Coach Payton, Peyton and Eli would have been chasing Dad's shadow their whole careers...

Archie never had a line, and what receivers or backs he had were sky-high, drunk on game day...
Your comment dissing Drew's accuracy is laughable and I'm not gonna even provide stats or videos attesting to his accuracy. I grew up watching Archie and I'm a huge fan. Unfortunately he only had 1 or 2 years w a decent team around him. But he was the most accurate qb ever at throwing while running towards his left.

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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
You pretty much nailed it with the Steve Young comparison...

Today's game would definitely be Andrew Luck...

In fact, watch Luck getting battered and beaten as he has been is making me have Archie flashbacks...

For the Archie haters, you are just tipping your hands that you either didn't watch Archie play or understand little about football...

Think one of you mentioned accuracy?!?

Drew doesn't come close to threading needles; Coach Payton has a brilliant system of timing, whereby Drew throws into buckets on pre-snap reads...

In fact, though he was cut that season, Brees participated in an ill-advised training camp passing competition which Ryan Griffin smoked him...

Brees' strength is in no way his arm, and to suggest is laughable; what he has is a near-perfect grasp of what Coach Payton has installed - that's the strength...

If Archie had been able to develop with Coach Payton, Peyton and Eli would have been chasing Dad's shadow their whole careers...

Archie never had a line, and what receivers or backs he had were sky-high, drunk on game day...
Yeah, I see the Luck comparison as well. Many people just don't understand how gawd awful we were on both sides of the ball.

Just imagine the Spagnuola season, but on both sides of the ball.

I mean how in the **** do you win an NFL Most Valuable Player on an 8-8 team?

Or be voted all pro on a 7-9 team?

I'm not gonna say Arch would be better than Brees, but I damn sure know it would be a virtual tie at worst.

Another thing... I wonder how many current QB's would still be playing today if they took the weekly pummeling that Archie did. Dude got hit 10 times more than David Carr ever did, and he kept on swinging.

Remember the hit Brees took from Ahmad Brooks? It seemed like Archie took one of those every game year after year after year.


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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

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True, its all opinion, but I've watched football all my life thru the 70's, 80's and 90's and its my opinion that Archie's talents would be phenomenal with today's rules favoring offenses.

It is impossible to compare different era's, but I think Archie would probably be comparable to an Aaron Rodgers in today's NFL.

Perhaps a Steve Young with a stronger arm?

I'd love to hear some of you older guys like me compare him to a current player.
I was born in 1958 and I've went to games at Tulane Stadium. Archie ran out away from pressure. Brees would move in the pocket away from the pressure. Aaron Brooks moved in the pocket better.





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