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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't think it makes sense that this Brees situation would be a smoke screen. If this deal had gotten done sooner, the Saints would have been in play for some quality free agents. Why would ...
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by burningmetal
There is no "Brees situation". The Brees extension, which I guarantee will take place, has always been in a position to be completed AFTER the draft as I have been preaching for months. In an interview yesterday Brees came right out and said the exact same thing saying ...![]()
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
There is a discussion ongoing, centered around Drew Brees. Therefore I will call it the Brees "situation" if I jolly well please. My point, in case you missed it (you did), was that this is no smoke screen. I did not say no deal will be done. I'm sure it will be done.![]()
Rookie contracts are not that big of a deal. I see no point in waiting till after the draft, simply for that reason. I'm a fan of building through both the draft and free agency. I don't like an all in on one or the other, philosophy. Our Super Bowl season will show you the balance of how that team was constructed. Lot's of key free agents, and draftees. Plus Vilma, via trade. This isn't like Major league Baseball, where you have 40 freaking rounds to stockpile every year, to build with, and to use prospects as currency. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by burningmetal
First of all, rookie contracts are still a bit of a deal if you are interested in trading back up into the first round for a second pick. And free agency is not yet over. There are still a number of possibilities out there that teams are waiting on to find out how they did with the draft. Trades are also a possibility. There is no reason to finalize the Brees deal before the draft unless it became necessary. It could have if Norman became an option for the Saints, but he settled with Washington right out of the gate and never even gave the Saints a chance.![]()
Oh, and I got your point about the smoke screen. Most of my reply was guided toward other members around here. |
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
There should be more of a plan in place in terms of the draft. With the limits on what rookies can make, you should be able to ballpark an idea of what you'll be spending. Set a high water mark on what you would reasonably spend on the draft, and negotiate with your current players under those parameters. What's to stop Brees and management from going back and tweeking his deal a little bit, which ever direction, after the draft? I'm not aware of any rule that prohibits re-working a deal multiple times in an off season.![]()
This is all assuming that they ever had an intention of signing any other free agents. If they ACTUALLY had no interest, then I think that's a mistake. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by burningmetal
Why "retweak" when you can wait and know exactly what is needed, not to mention that all contracts have to get the approval of the league and I'm not sure how they look upon tweaking. And I have a feeling that if the Saints don't fill their needs through the draft that FA moves will be made.
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
The answer to your question can be found in multiple posts that I've just made. It would have made sense in terms of being in play for more free agents. Now it doesn't really matter. There are guys out there, but not top shelf one's. I'm not talking about 100 million dollar guys. It would have been nice to make a play on someone like Derek Wolfe or Terrance Knighton.![]()
By the way, I don't think the league has a problem with tweaking a deal. The Saints do it all the time. |
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Re: Drew Brees prefers extension, but is ready to play out current deal
Originally Posted by burningmetal
The Saints have never not been in play for a free agent. There was cap space available in other players that was exercised through extensions for the more common FA's and if a big one that they wanted had come into play they could have easily finalized the Brees deal earlier.![]()
No, the Saints actually do not. What they do is exercise clauses written into the contracts such as converting roster bonuses into signing bonuses that can then be amortized. These can happen once per year in years that have the roster bonus stated. They also commonly work out extensions with players but these usually only happen once per contract in the final year. I can't remember a contract being renegotiated, or tweaked, at any other time. I'm not saying it has never happened, but I can't think of one. |
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