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hagan714 04-28-2016 10:08 PM

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lynch dam if elway passed on cook i must have missed something. lynch is all upside this will be fun to watch

lee909 04-28-2016 10:09 PM

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Somewhere Mark Sanchez is mumblin in the corner "It was gonna be my year"

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 701236)

Where do you find this stuff?!? Nevermind.

lee909 04-28-2016 10:16 PM

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Jack still on the board

SmashMouth 04-28-2016 10:18 PM

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So who is better.. Clark or Rankins?

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 701258)
12. New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins, Defensive Tackle, Louisville

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12. New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins, Defensive Tackle, Louisville
Throughout this draft coverage, we'll pepper Saints defensive selections with carefully-curated Random Depressing Saints Defensive Stats.

Random Depressing Saints Defensive Stat #2043B: The Saints allowed 129.4 rushing yards per game last season (31st) in the NFL and 4.9 yards per rushing attempt.

Luckily this is the best defensive tackle draft in years. It's so good, and defensive tackles are so hard to keep straight, that Bleacher Report proudly presents this year's first installment of Big Uglies: a 2016 Field Guide. Don’t try to tell one monstrous interior lineman from another without it!

A quick Rankins primer ...

Size: 6-foot-1, 299 pounds.

Athleticism: This dude moves like a 210-pound safety.

Honors: All-ACC selection.

Numbers: Seven sacks in 2015.

Defining Special Trait: Exceptional first step quickness and fluidity.

Potential Flaws: Smaller than the prototype.

Also Worth Mentioning: Obliterated every blocker he faced in Senior Bowl practices.

Rankins looked like Aaron Donald’s twin brother at the Senior Bowl and could be a special player, though nitpickers warn that he lacks a counter move as a pass rusher and may not be built to bulk up to the 310-pound range without sacrificing quickness. Nitpickers sometimes mix old-fashioned analysis-paralysis with let’s pour ice water all over this prospect who is slaughtering offensive linemen in front of 500 reporters so we sound extra-discerning ulterior motives. Rankins can start in the NFL; the details are what will decide if he develops into a Pro Bowler.

The Saints will be easy to grade this year. Every time they pick a solid defensive player, they get a reward. Grade: A

Here's my problem with banking on this analysis re: Rankins and his Senior Bowl performance...

Defensive players as rookies are usually ahead of offensive players at that stage and many of those offensive linemen won't make NFL rosters...

Secondly, he looked great against the top seniors (not the underclassmen) and that was in one-on-one drills...

Third, Size, specifically Wingspan; he's only 6'1" and has average length arms; a 6'2" center or 6'4" guard is not going to have 1" or 3" more wingspan, it'll be way more, like 6" to 8", exponentially, and that means he'll get jammed up before he can get into an experience NFL offensive linemen...

Fourth, this reeks of Sedrick Ellis 2.0; and this low-man bullshinki wins, well I can tell you, when you got big guards (like we had with Evans and Nicks) and they're basically coached, they'll roll that lil' linemen up and out all-day; and I played football, when I sprouted before everyone to 6'2", it was helluva lot EASIER PUSHING DOWN on guys than when some of them passed me and it was HARDER TO PUSH UP on 6'4" to 6'5"' so shove that low man wins crap, staying in a poised, crouch position is one thing, getting your head shoved down your arse gets tiring...fast...

Fourth, Reggie Bush factor; just as Bush was All-World in NCAA because of his speed, in the NFL there were linemen just as fast and he had nothing else; Rankins will face men each week, even on bad teams, who can fold him up and push him out...

My biggest issue is this see-saw BS back and forth in personnel philosophy...

We were just a couple of pieces from completing the publicly declared 3-4 front and now we're going back to a 4-3; it's this lack of continuity of that is maddening; personally, 3-4 or 4-3 just get it done, without a USSR five year plan...

Wanna be wrong, so wanna be wrong, but I've seen this before...

...the monkey never learns...

WillSaints81 04-28-2016 10:26 PM

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Looks like we may have to get a guard next. Did not see that pick happening.

hagan714 04-28-2016 10:28 PM

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I never bought into the kid period. I had him as round 2 talent at the end of the year and nothing changed my mind during the off season.

but oh well the saints do it again and force me to watch and pray lee is right.

hagan714 04-28-2016 10:29 PM

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Cards get better

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 701328)
Looks like we may have to get a guard next. Did not see that pick happening.

My head will explode if we take Garnett in the second; don't won't a doctor in waiting from Stanford...

Give me a D*mn football player...

And we're going to need a Defensive End, to seal that edge on the 4-3...

Kikaha, good player, but doesn't have enough arse...

SmashMouth 04-28-2016 10:30 PM

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Still no Bama DT picked ... :popcorn:

hagan714 04-28-2016 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701331)
My head will explode if we take Garnett in the second; don't won't a doctor in waiting from Stanford...

Give me a D*mn football player...

And we're going to need a Defensive End, to seal that edge on the 4-3...

Kikaha, good player, but doesn't have enough arse...

LMAO no worries niners actually traded back into the first for him.

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 701332)
Still no Bama DT picked ... :popcorn:

Reed, I figured to the Cards, a late first rounder; he could play three downs, but he's not a pass rusher, but could set the edge for a fast OLB...

A'shawn I've not liked; thought he was more the beneficiary of great players all around him...

Raglan may have a herniated aorta - that's pretty f**king serious...

Best player from Bama in this draft was Kelly and he went to the one team, and player that needed him most - the Colts and Andrew Luck...

And I just read Luck still hasn't recovered from the a$$ whooping and injuries he received last season...

Know it was an impossible situation, but the Colts should have overpaid and kept Bruce Arians as an assistant until they could move Chuck out...

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:35 PM

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what happened to Tunsil?

WillSaints81 04-28-2016 10:36 PM

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It's a looooonggg story

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:36 PM

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oh really

SmashMouth 04-28-2016 10:38 PM

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LMAO.... Butler for the Panties.... over a BAMA DT.

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 701336)
what happened to Tunsil?

You know how they say a picture is worth a thousand words?

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums91-picture912.jpg

His social media account may have been hacked, but he was whack letting someone take his picture doing this...

Nevermind posting it all over the internet...

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:40 PM

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i got to go google this

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 701340)
LMAO.... Butler for the Panties.... over a BAMA DT.

I'd have taken Butler over Rankins...

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:42 PM

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holy **** you don't put that online man

SmashMouth 04-28-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701341)
You know how they say a picture is worth a thousand words?

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums91-picture912.jpg

His social media account may have been hacked, but he was whack letting someone take his picture doing this...

Nevermind posting it all over the internet...

... with a confederate flag in the background no less.

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:42 PM

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Now, do you really think all these young men in the NFL are upstanding men who are in bed for curfew and in Church on Sunday when not playing for the home team?

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 701345)
... with a confederate flag in the background no less.

I wasn't going to mention that, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that...

Wonder how he feels about public monuments and statues depicting civil war vets who defended their homes and homeland?

WillSaints81 04-28-2016 10:44 PM

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Cards are confident in their system like NE they can make anybody fit in. We have not shown that.

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:45 PM

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plus the text messages with the coach and his bills, you can't write this stuff

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:47 PM

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i'm late to the party but man I love the Saints pick, I'm thinking either WR or OG in the 2nd but man if Jack is there, do you pull the trigger

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 701350)
Cards are confident in their system like NE they can make anybody fit in. We have not shown that.

What I can figure is how can Coach Payton is so brilliant on offense, but can't just reverse his thinking and apply it to defense...

I'm starting the Dennis Allen Departure Clock now...

Really would love to be in an invisible bubble, in the draft room and watch the decision(s) made...

Absolutely would be fascinated with the process, if not discouraged...

lee909 04-28-2016 10:47 PM

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Ive heard the Cardinals are bricking up all the windows at the training ground as we speak.

Taking no chances

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:48 PM

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6e7429acae.jpg

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:49 PM

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no Mayock, it says that Alabama's defense aint worth the hype you clowns spin out

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 701352)
i'm late to the party but man I love the Saints pick, I'm thinking either WR or OG in the 2nd but man if Jack is there, do you pull the trigger

Myles Jack? He's facing microfracture surgery, came out earlier today on NFL.com...

Somewhere in the thread or the NFL Prospect thread I posted the link to the story...

Just Google "Myles Jack Microfracture" and switch to the News hits...

hagan714 04-28-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701343)
I'd have taken Butler over Rankins...

Panthers get it. get big and keep it big and draft them big. Butler fell into the best spot to develop. They keep getting scarier up front.

hagan714 04-28-2016 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 701356)
no Mayock, it says that Alabama's defense aint worth the hype you clowns spin out

Mayock lmao.

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:57 PM

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Best Picks of the First Round:

No. 5 JAX - DB Jalen Ramsey
No. 7 SF - DE Deforest Buckner
No.18 IND - C Ryan Kelly
No. 23 MIN - WR Laquon Treadwell

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701360)
Best Picks of the First Round:

No. 5 JAX - DB Jalen Ramsey
No. 7 SF - DE Deforest Buckner
No.18 IND - C Ryan Kelly
No. 23 MIN - WR Laquon Treadwell

agreed, Ramsey at 5 is insane I really can't believe that SD passed on him

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:57 PM

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So glad Frisco took Garnett, so relieved...

Barry from MS 04-28-2016 10:59 PM

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Still very good defensive prospects in 2nd round. DE, DT, or CB?

Me? Another DT. Jones, Miss State

RaginCajun83 04-28-2016 11:00 PM

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Spriggs and/or Whitehair should be there at the Saints 2nd

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 11:01 PM

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We still need a Defensive End...

Sure surprised at who is still available...


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