Underwhelmed

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2016, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

There isn't a thing unusual about that. That leaves almost half the league that didn't bother. He's got athleticism, and teams want to get a closer look. Again, I hope he turns out great, but nothing about 17 teams sending scouts to look at him tells me anything different.

He's a project, and will continue to be until he proves something. All rookies have something to prove, but this kid comes from freaking Canada. How did Akiem Hicks work out there, smart guy?

I see the athleticism, and it's interesting. But there are times to take chances, and times to fill glaring needs. Now, any draft pick can be a bust. But you have to play the percentages.

I'm not talking about going to Indiana. I'm talking about going to Canada.

burningmetal · 04-30-2016, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not talking about going to Indiana. I'm talking about going to Canada.

That's your response? NFL teams go to Canada all the time to check out CFL players. They saw a guy with "measurables" and, like any other prospect, they went to look at him. If they can fly to Minnesota, it won't hurt them to go a little farther north.

Again, what happened with Akiem Hicks? You're argument isn't very impressive.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2016, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That's your response? NFL teams go to Canada all the time to check out CFL players. They saw a guy with "measurables" and, like any other prospect, they went to look at him. If they can fly to Minnesota, it won't hurt them to go a little farther north.

Again, what happened with Akiem Hicks? You're argument isn't very impressive.

Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury.

burningmetal · 04-30-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury.

Bull crap, 'Guido. Hicks was never anything close to a "monster" and has had no more injuries then any typical player.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2016, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Bull crap, 'Guido. Hicks was never anything close to a "monster" and has had no more injuries then any typical player.

Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates. If I remember right he was very solid in '13 then was hampered by an ankle though most of '14. The crap on him came out in '15. He had the talent, but I guess you're right. They missed that. That was probably a big reason for the house cleaning in the scouting department.

spkb25 · 04-30-2016, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates.

JR was a team captain

burningmetal · 04-30-2016, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates. If I remember right he was very solid in '13 then was hampered by an ankle though most of '14. The crap on him came out in '15. He had the talent, but I guess you're right. They missed that. That was probably a big reason for the house cleaning in the scouting department.

Yes, after he had already proven he couldn't produce. Every year was hype, followed by nothing. As for cleaning house. It remains to be seen what that did. Too early to tell.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2016, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Yes, after he had already proven he couldn't produce. Every year was hype, followed by nothing. As for cleaning house. It remains to be seen what that did. Too early to tell.

You've got to admit last year has looked better than the previous seven or so.

spkb25 · 04-30-2016, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury.

48 games, 119 tackles 6.5 sacks.

Cam Jordan 47 games, 153 tackles, 23.5 sacks.

I am not going to say Hicks set the world on fire

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2016, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

48 games, 119 tackles 6.5 sacks.

Cam Jordan 47 games, 153 tackles, 23.5 sacks.

I am not going to say Hicks set the world on fire

You're right. He looked so good at times. Too bad he was a psycho.

04-30-2016, 02:46 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by burningmetal There isn't a thing unusual about that. That leaves almost half the league that didn't bother. He's got athleticism, and teams want to get a closer look. Again, I hope he turns out great, but nothing about 17 teams sending scouts to look at him tells me anything different. He's a project, and will continue to be until he proves something. All rookies have something to prove, but this kid comes from freaking Canada. How did Akiem Hicks work out there, smart guy? I see the athleticism, and it's interesting. But there are times to take chances, and times to fill glaring needs. Now, any draft pick can be a bust. But you have to play the percentages. I'm not talking about going to Indiana. I'm talking about going to Canada.

04-30-2016, 03:11 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not talking about going to Indiana. I'm talking about going to Canada. That's your response? NFL teams go to Canada all the time to check out CFL players. They saw a guy with "measurables" and, like any other prospect, they went to look at him. If they can fly to Minnesota, it won't hurt them to go a little farther north. Again, what happened with Akiem Hicks? You're argument isn't very impressive.

04-30-2016, 03:33 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by burningmetal That's your response? NFL teams go to Canada all the time to check out CFL players. They saw a guy with "measurables" and, like any other prospect, they went to look at him. If they can fly to Minnesota, it won't hurt them to go a little farther north. Again, what happened with Akiem Hicks? You're argument isn't very impressive. Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury.

04-30-2016, 03:47 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury. Bull crap, 'Guido. Hicks was never anything close to a "monster" and has had no more injuries then any typical player. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

04-30-2016, 03:55 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by burningmetal Bull crap, 'Guido. Hicks was never anything close to a "monster" and has had no more injuries then any typical player. Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates. If I remember right he was very solid in '13 then was hampered by an ankle though most of '14. The crap on him came out in '15. He had the talent, but I guess you're right. They missed that. That was probably a big reason for the house cleaning in the scouting department.

04-30-2016, 03:56 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates. JR was a team captain

04-30-2016, 04:01 PM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Didn't he end '14 on IR? The monster label was from his teammates. If I remember right he was very solid in '13 then was hampered by an ankle though most of '14. The crap on him came out in '15. He had the talent, but I guess you're right. They missed that. That was probably a big reason for the house cleaning in the scouting department. Yes, after he had already proven he couldn't produce. Every year was hype, followed by nothing. As for cleaning house. It remains to be seen what that did. Too early to tell.

04-30-2016, 04:04 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by burningmetal Yes, after he had already proven he couldn't produce. Every year was hype, followed by nothing. As for cleaning house. It remains to be seen what that did. Too early to tell. You've got to admit last year has looked better than the previous seven or so. MarchingOn likes this.

04-30-2016, 03:54 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hicks was a monster until injuries took their toll. You can never predict injury. 48 games, 119 tackles 6.5 sacks. Cam Jordan 47 games, 153 tackles, 23.5 sacks. I am not going to say Hicks set the world on fire

04-30-2016, 03:57 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,709	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by spkb25 48 games, 119 tackles 6.5 sacks. Cam Jordan 47 games, 153 tackles, 23.5 sacks. I am not going to say Hicks set the world on fire You're right. He looked so good at times. Too bad he was a psycho.

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