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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by CheramieIII Won't lose site of where we came from because the future depends on it. For the players, the coaches and the front office. It impacts who we are, how we think, what we believe, how we ...

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Old 05-08-2016, 08:14 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
Won't lose site of where we came from because the future depends on it. For the players, the coaches and the front office.

It impacts who we are, how we think, what we believe, how we interact with others, what we think is possible for ourselves, whether we view the world as good or bad, what we strive for. Our history—our upbringing—impacts everything we think and believe and do.

It's is impossible to know where to go without reflecting on your past. Understanding our heritage and our roots are a very important part of carving out our future.

Melissa Joy • Never Forget Where You Came From.

This excerpt is from Melissa Joy and a damn good one!

You can forget the past if you want to but I for one will never forget it and will remember it to motivate everyone in the future.
You do realize this is a discussion about football, right? Comparing one's heritage to a football organization which has players who are not in any way related to the players who stunk up the joint in the past, is kind of far fetched, in my opinion.

But more than that, here's where you're really missing my point. I didn't say "forget" the past. Unless you have amnesia, you can't forget that, nor can you "choose" to forget. I asked how long you want us to look 40 years into the past. Meaning, how long before we can stop judging this team based on those teams, in your opinion?

It's fine to remember the past, but you have to move on from it. You're right in one sense... When you say it should be used as motivation. Absolutely. That means not settling for mediocrity, simply because "well, we've had worse". That's the overwhelming sentiment I get from people who constantly use that tired old line, as I described it earlier.

THIS is not THEN. That's the point I'm trying to get across.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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You do realize this is a discussion about football, right? Comparing one's heritage to a football organization which has players who are not in any way related to the players who stunk up the joint in the past, is kind of far fetched, in my opinion.

But more than that, here's where you're really missing my point. I didn't say "forget" the past. Unless you have amnesia, you can't forget that, nor can you "choose" to forget. I asked how long you want us to look 40 years into the past. Meaning, how long before we can stop judging this team based on those teams, in your opinion?

It's fine to remember the past, but you have to move on from it. You're right in one sense... When you say it should be used as motivation. Absolutely. That means not settling for mediocrity, simply because "well, we've had worse". That's the overwhelming sentiment I get from people who constantly use that tired old line, as I described it earlier.

THIS is not THEN. That's the point I'm trying to get across.
I get what you are saying, but I am just of a philosophy that criticizing or basically *****ing and moaning about what goes on with the front office of the Saints is a nonproductive waste of time. I, like the vast majority of fans, know that nothing we say has any affect on what happens with our Saints. Most of us choose to simply enjoy it for what it is ... entertainment. Of course, the more we win the more entertaining it becomes. I remember when three out of four years with a 7-9 record would have been regarded as a winning streak. Do I wish for more? Of course, but why get bent out of shape over it if there is nothing I, or any other fan, can do about it.

What happens with the team will happen and I for one get tired of so much negativity. There seems to be more in recent years than back in the heyday. I'm sure that has to do with heightened expectations, but it still seems to me to be a waste of time and energy to be so critical about something that is completely out of ones control.

People sometimes call me a homer and accuse me of wearing rose colored glasses. I say, fine. I see nothing wrong with either of those things.

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