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jjasso007 04-30-2016 05:51 PM

2016 Saints UDFAs
 
Lots of potential UDFA prospects, as usual

Landon Turner - Guard
Darrell Greene - Guard
Dominick Jackson - Guard
Avery Young - OT who could move to Guard
Kai'imi Fairbairn - Kicker
Victor Ochi - DE
Keyarris Garrett - WR

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:00 PM

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Crusader 04-30-2016 06:01 PM

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WillSaints81 04-30-2016 06:05 PM

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And there's a guard option. And from division II juggernaut ApSt.

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:06 PM

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Ryker Mathews, OT
BYU Cougars

Measurables
Height: 6’6″
Weight: 315 lbs
Year: Senior


Strengths
The first thing that jumps off when watching tape of Ryker Mathews is the tremendous amount of strength he has in his hands. They act almost like massive clamps and once he latches onto a defender it becomes very difficult for them to break away. As expected with senior lineman, Mathews possesses the awareness and technique that are necessary to succeed early in the NFL with the body control to thrive as a run-blocker. Mathews is extremely versatile as he’s blocked at every position on the offensive line and even some at tight end, understanding that angles and positioning are what allow him to be effective. Mathews shows his intelligence in the field and he proves to be a leader of this unit.


Weaknesses
While Mathews has played tight end in his past, he doesn’t possess the athleticism that a lot of his counterparts in this draft class have thrived on which limit him in the NFL. His slow-feet prevent him from changing directions quickly when blocking down field. He tends to struggle against more powerful defensive lineman as he tries to generate power with his upper body and hips rather than his base, often getting himself pushed into the backfield. Will need to improve his technique when anchoring.


Final Thoughts
It’s likely Mathews won’t be considered for a high-pick as he just doesn’t possess the quick burst or athleticism of other prospects in this class. What Mathews will bring to the table is toughness, football intelligence, and experience playing multiple positions within a pro-style offense. This alone will make him draftable and considered a nice backup option early on.

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:10 PM

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De'vante Harris, CB
Texas AM

Height: 5'11"
Weight: 176LBS

Overview
Growing up as the son of a former NFL player (Rod Harris played four years after drafted in the fourth round by the Houston Oilers in 1989) and Aggie career record holder for kick return yards, it's no surprise that Harris attended A&M and excelled throughout his time there. The four-star recruit earned his way on the field for seven starts as a true freshman, making 30 tackles, 2.5 for loss, intercepting one pass and breaking up three others. Harris became the full-time starter in 2013 (56 tackles, 2.5 for loss, one INT, eight PBU) but struggled through fall camp and the early part of the 2014 season with an injury (six starts in 10 games, 53 stops, one INT, five PBU). Healthy again for most of his senior campaign, Harris picked off two passes and broke up eight others, displaying enough talent to potentially follow in his father's footsteps as an NFL draftee.


Analysis
Strengths Plays with plus instincts and locks in on quarterback to read his intentions. Able to step outside his area and go make a play on the ball. Plays with rapid response to the throw. Understands the game and gets secondary line up. Very communicative on the field. Plays with tremendous confidence. Loves to come downhill and strike incoming receivers with authority. Runs through his targets and delivers as much pop as his thin frame can muster.

Weaknesses
Played more bail and off coverage this season after big receivers bounced him around from press coverage in 2014. Willing hitter, but slides off of too many tackles allowing for additional yardage after contact. Play strength in run support and against big targets is below NFL standards. Recovery speed is average.

Sources Tell Us "He believes he's the best player on the field at all times. I love that. If he had about 20 more pounds on those bones we might be looking at something, but I think he's late Day 3 to undrafted." -- AFC area scout

Bottom Line Intelligent and instinctive, Harris has been a rock*-steady contributor for the Texas A&M defense from the moment he stepped on campus. With a rail-*thin frame and an inability to consistently tackle, Harris needs a big combine to improve his opportunity to hear his name called during the draft.

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - De'Vante Harris

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 06:11 PM

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Oh that's not the one I thought should have looked at the name more thought it was the OT from AppSt.

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 06:13 PM

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So surprised Keyarris Garrett went undrafted. Please scoop him up Mickey.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 06:14 PM

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Turner's a saint

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:17 PM

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ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 702444)
Turner's a saint

Yes!!! There's our guard folks and we didn't have to use a draft pick!!

RaginCajun83 04-30-2016 06:18 PM

UDFA Signings with Saints
 
Marcus Henry C Boise St
Landon Turner OG UNC
D.J. Pettway DL Alabama
Jared Dangerfield WR Western Kentucky
Ryker Mathews OT BYU
De’Vante Harris CB Texas A&M
Joseph Cheek OL Texas A&M
Ken Crawley CB Colorado
Avery Young OT Auburn
Ken Crawley C Colorado
Dillion Lee LB Alabama
Trae Elston CB Ole Miss
John Walker CB Colorado
Mitchell Loewen TE Arkansas
Tommylee Lewis WR Northern Illinois
Jeff Schoettmer, LB North Carolina
Jack Allen C/OG Mich St
Dominique Tovell LB ULLaf
Jordan Williams WR Ball St
Sione Houma FB Michigan
Mike Capato S Wisconsin

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:20 PM

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Landon Turner, OG
Nort Carolina

Height: 6'4"
Weight: 330LBS.


Overview
An absolute road grader, Turner has turned the heads of NFL general managers with his ability to move the line of scrimmage. The three-plus year starter at right guard followed up a third-team All-ACC junior campaign with an first-team Associated Press All-American and first-team all-conference senior year. The nephew of former NFL fullback Jim Braxton plays with the same tough mindset as his uncle.


Pro Day Results
20-yard short shuttle: 4.95 seconds
3-cone: 8.2 seconds


Analysis

Strengths
Thickly built with a bulldozer for a lower body. Grown man strength with jolting power in his hands. Blows the doors off of defensive tackles that don't have meat on their bones and power to match up. Explodes with full force into his target, bench presses his victim and runs feet after contact to finish the job. Seals down blocks and can redirect gap shooters as long as he gets his hands on them. Not overly flexible, but has enough bend at the point of attack for small space, phone booth ball. Pass sets with good arm extension and adequate posture to give him his best shot at changing direction when needed. Ability to mirror shows promise for a man his size. Plays with aggression and looks to impose his will. Pass protection and overall play showed noticeable improvement from where he was in 2014.

Weaknesses
Smashes opposition with pure power but doesn't have the bend to snap hips into blocks and secure them longer. Needs to improve his sloppy hand placement. Labors with lateral movement. Straight-legged mover in space and will be very hit or miss when asked to pull and hit targets while on the move. Predictable change of direction concerns. Sees when power step against inside move is needed, but feet don’t always cooperate. Needs combo blocks to be right in front of him or he tends to whiff on second level. Marginal reactive athleticism limits sustained blocks against active, eager defenders. Could struggle quite a bit in pass protection against speedy, sub *package pass rushers inside.

Draft Projection Rounds 4 or 5

NFL Comparison A.J. Cann

Bottom Line Landon Turner is a very easy evaluation in my estimation because his strengths and weaknesses are so obvious. Turner is a road grader deluxe whose size and power will have teams who covet those traits licking their chops. However, he’s no dancing bear and they will have to be OK with his potential concerns against quickness in pass protection.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profil...ner?id=2555139


That absolute road grader line makes me all giddy.... :-D

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 06:28 PM

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Garrett is a kitten

Crusader 04-30-2016 06:35 PM

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hagan714 04-30-2016 06:36 PM

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interesting

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 06:36 PM

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Neaux LSU players? NeauxFW..... :wink:

|Mitch| 04-30-2016 06:38 PM

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Landon Turner! We got us a guard fellas!

voodooido 04-30-2016 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 702467)
Neaux LSU players? NeauxFW..... :wink:

Only 6 were up to be drafted and 5 of them were. Hawkins-OT, I believe was the only UDFA

Euphoria 04-30-2016 06:58 PM

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Wow we got some of these guys... I am impressed with our UDFA. These guys should have been drafted just on size alone!!! Holy crap.

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 07:01 PM

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Getting Landon Turner is practically like having that 5th round pick we traded away. Makes those later rounds far more palatable.

RaginCajun83 04-30-2016 07:01 PM

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Jack Allen C/OG Mich St

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...rzDLMj8G7cmJqc

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 702478)

Holy cow! That's equally as big as getting Landon Turner! Fantastic.

hagan714 04-30-2016 07:30 PM

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Quick look and these jumped out at me

Ryker Mathews OT BYU
De’Vante Harris CB Texas A&M
Ken Crawley CB Colorado
Avery Young OT Auburn
Dominique Tovell LB ULLaf

Barry from MS 04-30-2016 07:37 PM

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Landon Turner OG UNC
Ryker Mathews OT BYU
Avery Young OT Auburn
Jack Allen C/OG Mich St

Getting these in the UDFA haul more than makes up for not picking up a Guard with a draft pick...especially Turner & Allen. We made out like bandits & it should be an interesting camp for the O-line. Like it a bunch.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 07:39 PM

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I have to look up Turner some more. I recall putting him in my DND list with Drango among the then first five.

Avery Young I might be more optimistic about and I was high on Walsh. Has he been signed?

Danno 04-30-2016 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 702467)
Neaux LSU players? NeauxFW..... :wink:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

ChrisXVI 04-30-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 702486)
I have to look up Turner some more. I recall putting him in my DND list with Drango among the then first five.

Avery Young I might be more optimistic about and I was high on Walsh. Has he been signed?

Turner is a classic road-grading right guard with iffy pass blocking. He's not an upgrade over Lelito and Kelemete at this point, but it'll be good to have options.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 08:16 PM

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Allen might end up being the guard I think.

RaginCajun83 04-30-2016 08:45 PM

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*play this video with your sound off

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 10:15 PM

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No Draft Breakdown videos of either Young or Mathews.

But Turner I looked at the SC one again, and one against Clemson I didn't see before.


Clemson didn't make me feel better and they said he's not fit for a zone scheme. We're a zone.

And here's Allen


He tackled well but maybe someone who sees this can explain why he goes off sequence.

lee909 04-30-2016 10:25 PM

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Just woke up so not had time to look through properly
Initial thoughts in UDFA crop

QBREES9 04-30-2016 10:33 PM

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Welcome fellas, Ya still have to make the team.

WillSaints81 04-30-2016 10:44 PM

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I don't think any of the receivers start imo. Maybe Lewis who looked the fastest. But that name just seems toi odd to be on a 53 man roster.

SmashMouth 04-30-2016 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 702502)
Just woke up so not had time to look through properly
Initial thoughts in UDFA crop

Guards, GUARDS.... GUARDS. Lots of them... and some other camp bodies.

RaginCajun83 05-01-2016 12:17 AM

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Final list:

OL Ryker Mathews, BYU
CB De’Vante Harris, Texas A&M
G Landon Turner, North Carolina
WR Jared Dangerfield, Western Kentucky
CB Ken Crawley, Colorado
OT Avery Young, Auburn
C Marcus Henry, Boise State
LB Dillon Lee, Alabama
DE Mitchell Loewen, Arkansas
WR Tommylee Lewis, Norther Illinois
G Joseph Cheek, Texas A&M
DL D.J. Pettway, Alabama
FS Trae Elston, Ole Miss
LB Jeff Schoettmer, North Carolina
C Jack Allen, Michigan State
LB Dominique Tovell , ULL
WR Jordan Williams, Ball State
FB Sione Houma, Michigan
S Mike Caputo, Wisconson
Kicker Anthony Pistelli, Samford
OLB/DE Royce LaFrance, Tulane

lee909 05-01-2016 01:13 AM

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OL Ryker Mathews, BYU
Ryker Mathews, OT, Brigham Young, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

CB De’Vante Harris, Texas A&M
De'Vante Harris Draft Profile

G Landon Turner, North Carolina
Landon Turner Draft Profile

WR Jared Dangerfield, Western Kentucky
Jared Dangerfield Draft Profile

CB Ken Crawley, Colorado
Ken Crawley Draft Profile

OT Avery Young, Auburn
Avery Young Draft Profile

C Marcus Henry, Boise State
Marcus Henry Draft Profile

LB Dillon Lee, Alabama
Alabama Football 2016 NFL Draft Profiles: Dillon Lee - Roll 'Bama Roll

DE Mitchell Loewen, Arkansas

WR Tommylee Lewis, Norther Illinois
Tommylee Lewis, Northern Illinois, Wide Receiver


G Joseph Cheek, Texas A&M
Joseph Cheek Draft Profile

DL D.J. Pettway, Alabama
D.J. Pettway Draft Profile


FS Trae Elston, Ole Miss
Trae Elston Draft Profile

LB Jeff Schoettmer, North Carolina
Jeff Schoettmer Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - North Carolina Tar Heels - ESPN

C Jack Allen, Michigan State
Jack Allen Draft Profile

LB Dominique Tovell , ULL
http://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/nfl-...ana-lafayette/


WR Jordan Williams, Ball State
Jordan Williams-Lambert Draft Profile

FB Sione Houma, Michigan
Sione Houma, Michigan FB - Scout


S Mike Caputo, Wisconson
Michael Caputo Draft Profile

nola_swammi 05-01-2016 02:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 702494)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-4lPMCa-Pc

*play this video with your sound off

This guy going to give Murphy & Lasco competition on ST.... I think he might make the practice squad but if he electrifying preseason he might take somebody's job

lee909 05-01-2016 02:26 AM

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Camp invite for Samford Kicker

Chuck Zodda’s top three draft-eligible kickers this year are Roberto Aguayo, Ross Martin, and Brad Craddock. In fact, they are the only three kickers he assigned draftable grades. A kicker being skipped over in the draft but finding a way into the NFL is incredibly common – only 11 out of the 32 current starters were drafted. The laws of supply and demand are heavily tilted toward NFL teams, with only 32 jobs and relatively low turnover, meaning many qualified kickers find themselves not employed by an NFL franchise. While there are a number of large-school prospects, who typically fill these ranks, Anthony Pistelli out of Samford University could see himself missing out on draft day in 2016, but finding his way onto an NFL roster as training camp begins.

Samford University is not to be confused with Stanford University. Located in Birmingham, Alabama, the program operates at the FCS level, with a 6,700 seat stadium that first opened in 1958. Make no mistake, Pistelli is an NFL-caliber talent, though there are enough questions that he does not warrant a team using draft capital on him at this point. The biggest questions are not related to technique or mechanics, but rather the adjustment he faces coming from a small-school environment to kicking in front of 60,000 or more people on Sundays – as well as his long-distance accuracy in games, as this aspect of his talent has not been consistently tested to this point.

Pistelli began his career in 2013 at NCAA Division II Valdosta State, where he went 4 for 8 on field goals after transitioning from soccer. He saw tremendous improvement in his 2014 campaign, going 23 for 27, good for 85.1% accuracy, as well as making a 52-yard attempt. He transferred to Samford to pursue a Master’s degree, and his final year at the Alabama school saw him make 20 of 23 kicks, an 86.9% hit rate. Over the past two seasons, six of Pistelli’s seven misses came on kicks of 40 yards or greater, with only one miss from short distance. With the NFL moving to 33-yard extra points last season, this short-distance accuracy is a positive for Pistelli.

However, his 1 for 3 performance on kicks longer than 50 yards does raise some questions, though it is such a small sample size that not much can be gleaned from this information. Working without pads, Pistelli has shown the ability to hit on kicks up to 65 yards, though there is traditionally a 2-4 yard decrease because of pads. This still shows a strong leg that should be able to hit any kick demanded by any NFL team, but the lack of data is the main reason why this question will likely prevent Pistelli from being drafted.

hagan714 05-01-2016 03:41 AM

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I am more pumped about this group than the draft class. as if that was hard

Given the kicker situation I would have thought we would have chased a few other than this camp kicker from samford.


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