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Yes, he does hate LSU.

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So....you take the average of ALL teams and then say the Saints have drafted 9..hmmm..were the Saints not part of the average because that in no way equals the Saints drafting more from LSU.

As a matter of fact, the Saints have drafted 8 players from LSU since 1970. The Falcons for f#cks sake have drafted 10 since 1975.

But all that is besides the point. LSU is not in anyone else's backyard. They are in ours.

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Yes, the Saints have taken more than the average. That's evidence that they haven't been avoiding LSU players.

"As a matter of fact, the Saints have drafted 8 players from LSU since 1970. The Falcons for f#cks sake have drafted 10 since 1975."

And 3 other teams have also drafted more LSU players than the Saints. But 24 teams have drafted fewer. That's more evidence the Saints aren't avoiding LSU players.

"But all that is besides the point. LSU is not in anyone else's backyard. They are in ours."

Other than a splash playmaker, teams don't have much incentive to give preference to any local school. It's much more important to get the player you think will improve your team the most, regardless of alma matter, at your pick in the draft.

Edit: As for the dirty birds, we've drafted more Georgia players than they have 10 to 9.
Edit 2: And for Bama fans, the dirty birds have drafted 7 players, the Saints have drafted 8.

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How many LSU players have we passed on that are making a big impact in the NFL?

Every damn year someone asks this dumb question. Sean hasnt picked any LSU players because they either had no value or were not a need.
he has had several Louisiana natives via other avenues. Greer, Henderson, Breaux, etc

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HAHAHAHA

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Easily disproven? 9 freaking players. We've drafted 8 freaking Ohio State players in the last dozen or so years. Nobody is asking them to draft an LSU player every single year. I'm not even saying they HAVE to draft any. The point was that it's weird. At the height of LSU's program, which has been the last 15 years, they've drafted all but two from there.

There is a strong tendency for teams to bring in local players, at least late in drafts, because they are more familiar those players. It doesn't always happen, but it's not uncommon. It is with the Saints. That is indisputable. And there isn't a thing in the world wrong with pointing it out.

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He also hates these schools: Air Force, Appalachian St., Arizona, and South Alabama, in which the Saints never drafted a player.

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It's official... Danno is the only one who hates LSU.
Actually he should love LSU because Bama beats them all the time.... :mad:

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Not really. My first reply was going to be, "Doesn't everybody?" Then (forgetting that LSU doesn't actually even have a math department) I thought I'd throw a little logic out instead. My bad. :-D

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I think you missed the initial point our OP was making.

But to answer your question ... Mathieu, Eric Reid, La'el Collins, Jarvis Landry (we chose SJB instead :rolleyes:), & Jeremy Hill were on the board for us just to name a few. Pro bowlers &/or impact players who have serious value & who would fill a need in New Orleans.

I'm all for drafting players across the country regardless of the school, however it is a bit disappointing to see former Tigers making strides and having solid success for other teams when the opportunities were there to select them.

Carry on ;).

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I hope you're not being serious with that comparison.

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Except that 4th grade math shows it's not true.

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Gawd! The draft's over and we have nothing left until preseason but to trash other folks' schools.

I'm okay with that...

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But we did sign Tavaris Cadet from the mighty Appalachian State. That sort of counts doesn't it?

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Well the Falcons .e wr stopped sucking.

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Speaking of LSU and the Dirty birds ... Deion Jones was taken in the 2nd by them (hopefully this was a reach). Fingers crossed this guy doesn't turn into Bobby Wagner by year 2 :pissed:.

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It does tug on the heart strings to see an LSU player, especially a Louisiana native go to another team but of the names you listed, with the exception of Reid, the Saints (at the time) had other needs or weren't ready to take a risk that nobody else was willing to take either.

Mathieu was a very high risk and nobody took him till the 3rd round. The Saints drafted Kenny Vacarro in the first and didn't have a draft pick in the second. By their pick in the 3rd, he was gone. (They took a little hyped player from Arkansas Pine Bluff in the 3rd that's worked out pretty well so far)

Eric Reid was considered by most at the time to be the second best safety in the draft to Kenny Vaccaro. The Saints went with Vaccaro because he was considered more versatile. He could cover in the slot, play punisher in the backfield and excelled against the run.

La'el Collins was involved in a murder investigation. Nobody risked a draft pick on him. After the draft, the Saints pursued him, along with at least 10 other teams but Collins decided the Cowboys were a better fit and that it was a business decision rather than an emotional one.

As Jarvis Landry goes, in the 2014 draft, the Saints took Brandon Cooks with their first pick. We all know Sean loves his burners. Two receivers in the first two rounds would've been excessive considering all the other needs the team had, especially in the defensive backfield so they went with SJB. That was just a bad pick all around.

When Jeremy Hill was drafted, also in the 2014, the Saints had Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Kirby Robinson and Travis Cadet. Running back wasn't a need worthy of a first round pick and he was gone in the second before we picked again.

Hind site is 20/20 but with the exception of Reid, I think the Saints had very good reasons to choose the way they did. Certainly not some kind of bias against LSU.

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And that's assuming Reid wouldn't have been used as poorly as Vaccaro has been....

I'm of a mind that our draft history is crap both because it has been mostly crap over the years and this is the second year of pretty much a whole new draft regime.

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This thread is making George upset...

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Excuse me? You know, speaking of 4th grade... Maybe you could type up a response that sounds anywhere above that level.

Did you look up any numbers to see how often other teams get players from their local schools, as compared to the Saints? You only gave a number for one team, and you missed the point in doing so. I don't believe there is any hatred toward LSU. It's just odd how the Saints don't somehow end up with one of the many, many talented players that come out of there. The numbers show that it almost never happens. I'm not crying for an investigation over it, guy. It's just strange.

So what is your "math" proving? Only what you want to make of it. It tells me what I already know. Drafting local players, specifically from LSU, has been rare.

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Mathieu would have fallen back into old habbits had he stayed at home. The best thing that happened to the kid was going to Arizona and staying round Petersons family.

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Excuse me? You know, speaking of 4th grade... Maybe you could type up a response that sounds anywhere above that level.

I could but then you wouldn't understand it. ;)

Did you look up any numbers to see how often other teams get players from their local schools, as compared to the Saints?

No, that's far too big a subject. Look it up yourself if your interested. I'd suggest using ProFootballreference or NFL web pages.

You only gave a number for one team, and you missed the point in doing so.

I also gave the Falcons and Georgia as a frame of reference. Do you think the Falcons avoid Bulldogs too? They've drafted Bulldogs at about the same rate the Saints have drafted LSU players.


I don't believe there is any hatred toward LSU. It's just odd how the Saints don't somehow end up with one of the many, many talented players that come out of there. The numbers show that it almost never happens. I'm not crying for an investigation over it, guy. It's just strange.

So what is your "math" proving? Only what you want to make of it. It tells me what I already know. Drafting local players, specifically from LSU, has been rare.

What the math is showing is that only 4 teams of the 32 in the league have drafted more Tigers than the Saints. The most is only 3 more players over a 49 year draft history. That's kinda the opposite of rare.

I can post a list of all 158 schools from which the Saints have drafted from. LSU is 12th on the list. If anything, it would be easier to make a case that LSU is one of their favorite schools.

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Ahem...
I'd like to point out a few things:
1. Some of us are obviously having much more fun with this thread than others.
2. I have crazy mad researching skills.
3. I have way too much time on my hands.
4. To make my point absolutely blatant for my mathless friends, the Lions, Eagles, 49ers, Giants, Bears, Redskins, Ravens, Jets, Chargers, Bills, Cardinals and Clowns also have no "hometown" players on their team. To add insult to injury, not only do the Broncos, Patriots, Packers, Dolphins, Browns, Colts, Jaguars, Chiefs and Bucs not have any, they don't have any LSU players either!
5. Obviously there are some LSU haters out here. Why do you think that some of us are having so much fun with this thread?

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Pretty sure LSU TE Dillon Gordon just signed as a UDFA with the Saints.

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Doesn't count!!! He wasn't DRAFTED!!

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I agree.

on a related topic, i would like to put my face in the middle of your avatar and go BLBLBLBLBLBL !

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We didn't need Hill, and he isn't exactly lighting it up. Mathieu just wasn't a gamble Payton wanted to take. Yea SBJ was probably one of the worst picks they have made since Payton has been here. I am still scratching my head about that.

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Yeah. This killed me too. Landry would be great with Cooks. Landry has better hands than Beckham and is a great blocker too. He caught 80 passes his rookie year from Tanneyhill or some average QB.

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Dude Hill is lighting it up. He ran for a ton vs us. OK bad example but didnt he run for 1300 yds rookie year?

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Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse.

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2015 Co rushing TD leader. Not bad for the hometown product (Baton Rouge). Cincy gave him another chance and he is making the most of it. Good for Hill ;).

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So far, generally agree. This is the tell tale year for him.

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He's come in like every other DB we've drafted, thrown out on the field uncoached and on the fast train to bust. The only real decent players we have out in the backfield have had the advantage of actually being coached at the NFL level with another team that actually does that. He was a real crowd pleaser his first year except no one taught him about not using his head when tackling. We don't know where he excels because he's not really been given the chance or the coaching to do that.

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Seer,

I do expect to see good progress from our secondary for 2016. Mainly because of the assistance coaches we've added.

Giunta & Glenn will bring grit that we've lacked over the years. FWIW, Glenn did a really good job with Joe Haden in his development while he was up in Cleveland.