New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Does Sean hates LSU (https://blackandgold.com/saints/77851-does-sean-hates-lsu.html)

saintshrimp 05-02-2016 07:20 PM

Does Sean hates LSU
 
I find it entirely odd that we have a power house in our back yard but we seem to never seem to take advantage of it.The leauge is filled with guys from LSU and other Louisianna Dcools but we have but only had very very few.I really think he hates louisianna athletes

K Major 05-02-2016 07:34 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Kwon Alexander ... could have been a solid special team contributor in Black and Gold. Good player down in Baton Rouge. Thought he was worth a look.

What do I know.

Danno 05-02-2016 08:32 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Lol!

QBREES9 05-02-2016 08:41 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Good question.

|Mitch| 05-02-2016 08:42 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
I'll have to ask him sometime...

captainshawn 05-02-2016 08:58 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Spellcheck?

saintshrimp 05-02-2016 09:43 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by captainshawn (Post 702840)
Spellcheck?

Oh boy I love guys like you.I am using a phone DH sometimes my fingers don't get the right buttons so shoot me. Those two typos are gonna kill you wish I were as perfect as you I'm so sorry

CharityMike 05-02-2016 10:31 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 702818)
I find it entirely odd that we have a power house in our back yard but we seem to never seem to take advantage of it.The leauge is filled with guys from LSU and other Louisianna Dcools but we have but only had very very few.I really think he hates louisianna athletes

I would think so. I made a similar comment in the draft thread. They rather spend, who knows how much, money going to the backwoods of Canada and one of the top SEC schools 60 miles away barely gets a sniff.

billyt81 05-02-2016 10:35 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
We took Kenny Vaccarro when Eric Reid was available. Vaccarro 6 ft 4.6 40. Reid 6 ft 2
4.4 40. Sean likes Midwest to California region dudes. I bet Jalen Mills ends up better than our Ohio State FS. We rarely pick any SEC players. Im glad we signed the DB from Ole Miss and A&M. Especially the Ile Miss FS.

CharityMike 05-02-2016 10:38 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Funny..I just googled if the Saints ever drafted anyone from LSU and found this which was just recently posted:

Saints have been in the mix to draft LSU players, but timing hasn't worked out lately

Don't be fooled by the closed pipeline from LSU to the New Orleans Saints these days.

The Saints have historically drafted eight LSU players since 1970, but none since Al Woods in 2010. That's only behind the Giants (11), Chargers (10), Falcons (10), Cardinals (10) and Broncos (9), in that same time frame.

Woods, a fourth round draft pick, didn't last long in New Orleans. But he's doing OK for himself, re-signing with the Titans this week on a three-year, $10.5 million deal.

However, the Saints haven't drafted an LSU player since Woods, and they haven't taken many LSU players in the last 10 drafts. That honor goes to the Cardinals, who have taken five LSU players since 2008. The Bengals, Texans, Chargers and Niners have each taken four.

But even with the lack of players moving from Baton Rouge to New Orleans these days, the Saints say they like them just fine.

"We'd love to have some LSU players on our team," said general manager Mickey Loomis.

Why they haven't gotten any has likely been a matter of circumstance. read the rest:Saints have been in the mix to draft LSU players, but timing hasn't worked out lately | NOLA.com


So..in 46 years, we have drafted 8 players from LSU..LMFAO and the title has nerve to say "lately".

foreverfan 05-02-2016 11:56 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
What killed me in 2014 was CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste instead of LSU WR Jarvis Landry.
Winning requires drafting PROVEN PLAY MAKERS with MAJOR TEAMS with NO INJURY HISTORY!

This is the only way to draft in the first 3 rounds!!!

NO FREAKING PROJECTS.... NONE!!!

And No Stupid Buckwheats Either!!!

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress...6&h=299&crop=1

st thomas 05-03-2016 12:07 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
I was saying all alone that payton just don't care to draft lsu players,there have been just to many get away that it was a no brainer but pases oh well to each his own, if for some reason and I pray not to happen is leonard fornette falls to us and payton will pass for a starting guard. rite call wrong year

jnormand 05-03-2016 12:30 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Well it's just how things are. Maybe he just hasn't had the one he wants when the one is available. Regardless, I doubt he's just avoiding LSU players.

Cmon!!!

saintshrimp 05-03-2016 01:21 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 702854)
Well it's just how things are. Maybe he just hasn't had the one he wants when the one is available. Regardless, I doubt he's just avoiding LSU players.

Cmon!!!

Well I think he does I mean come on not only had he not drafted one but he don't even bring in udfa from there.I think he might have a grudge against Les Miles to be honest.

K Major 05-03-2016 07:23 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Arizona Cardinals don't seem to have a problem with LSU players or Les Miles for that matter.

Seer1 05-03-2016 07:31 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
The good ol' boy network is long gone. BPA regardless of school ties. Until proven otherwise, we now have a decent group of scouts and someone who knows what he's doing to run them. Just because a large group of Who Dats watched them a lot, it doesn't make them the best players out there.

SmashMouth 05-03-2016 07:55 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
He drafted DL Al Woods and then cut him. He's still playing somewhere...?!?!?! We don't need DLinemen, right?

SapperSaint 05-03-2016 08:15 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Taking Baptiste over Landry was a BPA option????

Yes, a large number of WHODATS watch the TIGERS. In most cases, it's LSU 1st, Saints 2nd. I will admit, I fall into that crowd. Anyway, SP and Mickey have passed on some really good talent. Yes, there are bust players that come out of LSU, but not many. I still don't like the fact that we passed on Tunsil. O-Line woes have been preached about and preached about here and we let the best Tackle pass. That's JMO.

We let too many Good LSU products pass by to other teams. I'm sorry, but SEC players are more physically capable to start in the NFL, then any other conference.

K Major 05-03-2016 08:55 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 702847)

So..in 46 years, we have drafted 8 players from LSU..

:argue: ... wow.

Crusader 05-03-2016 09:23 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
I just know there is one kid probably coming out of LSU next year that I really really really would like to see play in his hometown...

lee909 05-03-2016 09:42 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Yeah coach hates Louisiana players that much that his two starting cornerbacks are both fron New Orleans

K Major 05-03-2016 09:50 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 702887)
Yeah coach hates Louisiana players that much that his two starting cornerbacks are both fron New Orleans

I think the OP meant guys coming straight out of college (LSU).

We picked up Delvin from the CFL and Lewis was acquired from Pittsburgh.

frydaddy 05-03-2016 09:50 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 702885)
I just know there is one kid probably coming out of LSU next year that I really really really would like to see play in his hometown...

Yes sir. But without a top 10 pick (which I don't want, unless it comes by trade) we probably won't even come close to him.

vpheughan 05-03-2016 10:04 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Don't forget the little known "Gone but not forgotten" clause John Mecom put in about drafting local talent. It's in the same section that stated all of Rich Mauti's kids had to be signed!

foreverfan 05-03-2016 10:41 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 702876)
Taking Baptiste over Landry was a BPA option????

Yes, a large number of WHODATS watch the TIGERS. In most cases, it's LSU 1st, Saints 2nd. I will admit, I fall into that crowd. Anyway, SP and Mickey have passed on some really good talent. Yes, there are bust players that come out of LSU, but not many. I still don't like the fact that we passed on Tunsil. O-Line woes have been preached about and preached about here and we let the best Tackle pass. That's JMO.

We let too many Good LSU products pass by to other teams. I'm sorry, but SEC players are more physically capable to start in the NFL, then any other conference.

Yes I love the Tigers and hate Alabama but I bleed Black and Gold. :givemebeer:
Anybody think that Devery Henderson was a mistake? :confused:

jonnyrotten 05-03-2016 11:28 AM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Personally I am not an LSU fan and could care less, i just want the right people like we all do.

At this point in time, we all have the luxury of hind sight.

K Major 05-03-2016 12:04 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 702898)
Anybody think that Devery Henderson was a mistake? :confused:

Heck no. DH played a solid 9 years (all but one in New Orleans), was able to take the lid off defenses and open up things underneath. Oh, and per historical stats data (yeah I looked it up) he had the highest per yard catch average TWICE & finished 2nd in Saints history. Dude even had a nice Super Bowl ... 7 catches for 61 yards.

No way we would have won a Championship without Devery on this team.

Who Dat :bng: !

CharityMike 05-03-2016 12:10 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 702883)
:argue: ... wow.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9cc955ee.gif

burningmetal 05-03-2016 01:25 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
There doesn't have to be some great conspiracy to admit that it's extremely odd how little the Saints ever go after LSU players. I don't want them to take players just because they are local. But when you have a program that puts out that many NFL players, and is right in your back yard where you can easily scout them, it's hard to believe that timing is the only factor.

It's just weird. They don't go after enough SEC players, in general. I don't have any numbers in front of me, but it seems like SEC players have a very high rate of success compared to most, if not all other conferences.

K Major 05-03-2016 01:52 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 702909)
There doesn't have to be some great conspiracy to admit that it's extremely odd how little the Saints ever go after LSU players. I don't want them to take players just because they are local. But when you have a program that puts out that many NFL players, and is right in your back yard where you can easily scout them, it's hard to believe that timing is the only factor.

x2.

SmashMouth 05-03-2016 01:53 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 702898)
Yes I love the Tigers and hate Alabama but I bleed Black and Gold. :givemebeer:
Anybody think that Devery Henderson was a mistake? :confused:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/media-p.sli...ed_excited.gif

Rugby Saint II 05-03-2016 02:42 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Nothing to see here.........move along.

Seer1 05-03-2016 02:47 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Now wait... there are 351 Division I colleges, 317 Division II and 455 Division III colleges. Now of those 1123 fine institutions of higher learning, only 55 are represented on the current Saints roster as well as a couple who have no apparent alumnus status with any of them. Now to further math up the subject, there are currently only 43 LSU alumni on NFL rosters. Are we needing some type of Goodellism making certain every college is represented on every team?

Utah_Saint 05-03-2016 04:14 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 702932)
Now wait... there are 351 Division I colleges, 317 Division II and 455 Division III colleges. Now of those 1123 fine institutions of higher learning, only 55 are represented on the current Saints roster as well as a couple who have no apparent alumnus status with any of them. Now to further math up the subject, there are currently only 43 LSU alumni on NFL rosters. Are we needing some type of Goodellism making certain every college is represented on every team?

Don't be bringing your fancy pants math into this perfectly good conspiracy theory.

burningmetal 05-03-2016 04:21 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 702932)
Now wait... there are 351 Division I colleges, 317 Division II and 455 Division III colleges. Now of those 1123 fine institutions of higher learning, only 55 are represented on the current Saints roster as well as a couple who have no apparent alumnus status with any of them. Now to further math up the subject, there are currently only 43 LSU alumni on NFL rosters. Are we needing some type of Goodellism making certain every college is represented on every team?

And of those 1123 fine institutions, how many are worth a crap at football? Also, last time I checked, LSU was leading the league in alumni. That isn't counting the numerous players over the years who are no longer in the league, that did not play for the Saints.

It is highly unusual for players from such a high profile program, to have almost zero presence in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the Saints.

If you don't recognize the significance of that, then I guess there's no point in explaining it any further.

burningmetal 05-03-2016 04:23 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 702946)
Don't be bringing your fancy pants math into this perfectly good conspiracy theory.

It's not a conspiracy theory to say that the Saints almost never pick LSU players. It's not a theory at all.

Crusader 05-03-2016 05:04 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 702904)
Heck no. DH played a solid 9 years (all but one in New Orleans), was able to take the lid off defenses and open up things underneath. Oh, and per historical stats data (yeah I looked it up) he had the highest per yard catch average TWICE & finished 2nd in Saints history. Dude even had a nice Super Bowl ... 7 catches for 61 yards.

No way we would have won a Championship without Devery on this team.

Who Dat :bng: !

And in my opinion Devery Henderson was the best downfield blocker of all the WRs on the team when he played for the Saints.

Utah_Saint 05-03-2016 06:00 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 702947)
And of those 1123 fine institutions, how many are worth a crap at football? Also, last time I checked, LSU was leading the league in alumni. That isn't counting the numerous players over the years who are no longer in the league, that did not play for the Saints.

It is highly unusual for players from such a high profile program, to have almost zero presence in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the Saints.

If you don't recognize the significance of that, then I guess there's no point in explaining it any further.

Over the "Entire History of the Saints" the number of LSU players drafted by team are as follows.

Atl 11
NYG 11
Den 10
SDG 10
Buf 9
Kan 9
Nor 9
Phi 9
Cin 8
Mia 8
New 8
SEA 8
STL 8
Chi 7
Hou/Ten 7
Oak 7
Cle 6
Dal 6
Det 6
Hou 6
Pit 6
SFO 6
Ari 5
GNB 5
TAM 5
Car 4
Min 4
Ind 3
Was 3
Bal 2
Jax 2
NYJ 1

On average each team has selected 6 1/2 LSU players since the Saints have been in existence. The Saints have drafted 9.

The truth is, the Saints draft more LSU players than most teams.

LSU Drafted Players/Alumni | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Utah_Saint 05-03-2016 06:02 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 702949)
It's not a conspiracy theory to say that the Saints almost never pick LSU players. It's not a theory at all.

Yes it is. And it's easily disproven.

jeanpierre 05-03-2016 06:27 PM

Re: Does Sean hates LSU
 
Born in Thibodaux, Louisiana...Mom's born Key West, Florida, raised in Gulfport, Mississippi...Dad's born, raised in Gladewater, Texas, until he moved and attended high school in Lake Charles, LA...

I'm a homer, SEC proud, pull for State until a stronger SEC looks like they've got a title shot, then I get behind them (pretty much hate on the rest of the country kinda thing giving some love to Texas, Clemson, GA Tech, VMI and Military Academies (except Air Force))...

But I could give a rat's arse whether the Saints draft someone from State; in fact, I've only wanted the Saints to draft from LSU two times in the last ten~fifteen years; once, with Glenn Dorsey (fmr Chiefs GM Carl Peterson, can go f*ck himself) and when La'el Collins fell in the draft last season, wanted the Saints to take him or Ali Marpet in the second round...

Knew we had no shot with Beckham and wasn't butt-hurt over it; remember drafting Al Woods and the MFer showed up outta shape and was rightly cut; Honey-Badger, happy, neaux, thrilled he got his act together and proud of how he's getting it done like he should get it done, but he was more of a risk than I wanted the Saints to take (in fact, it probably worked our for him because he went to the Cardinal and played with Peterson)...

Neaux, I don't get the butt-hurt for having no LSU players on the roster, not one bit...


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com