Does Sean hates LSU

billyt81 · 05-13-2016, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We didn't need Hill, and he isn't exactly lighting it up. Mathieu just wasn't a gamble Payton wanted to take. Yea SBJ was probably one of the worst picks they have made since Payton has been here. I am still scratching my head about that.

Dude Hill is lighting it up. He ran for a ton vs us. OK bad example but didnt he run for 1300 yds rookie year?

billyt81 · 05-13-2016, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

And that's assuming Reid wouldn't have been used as poorly as Vaccaro has been....

I'm of a mind that our draft history is crap both because it has been mostly crap over the years and this is the second year of pretty much a whole new draft regime.

Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse.

K Major · 05-13-2016, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Dude Hill is lighting it up. He ran for a ton vs us. OK bad example but didnt he run for 1300 yds rookie year?

2015 Co rushing TD leader. Not bad for the hometown product (Baton Rouge). Cincy gave him another chance and he is making the most of it. Good for Hill

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SmashMouth · 05-13-2016, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse.

So far, generally agree. This is the tell tale year for him.

Seer1 · 05-13-2016, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse.

He's come in like every other DB we've drafted, thrown out on the field uncoached and on the fast train to bust. The only real decent players we have out in the backfield have had the advantage of actually being coached at the NFL level with another team that actually does that. He was a real crowd pleaser his first year except no one taught him about not using his head when tackling. We don't know where he excels because he's not really been given the chance or the coaching to do that.

K Major · 05-13-2016, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

He's come in like every other DB we've drafted, thrown out on the field uncoached and on the fast train to bust. The only real decent players we have out in the backfield have had the advantage of actually being coached at the NFL level with another team that actually does that. He was a real crowd pleaser his first year except no one taught him about not using his head when tackling. We don't know where he excels because he's not really been given the chance or the coaching to do that.

Seer,

I do expect to see good progress from our secondary for 2016. Mainly because of the assistance coaches we've added.

Giunta & Glenn will bring grit that we've lacked over the years. FWIW, Glenn did a really good job with Joe Haden in his development while he was up in Cleveland.

05-13-2016, 03:10 AM	#71
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by The Dude We didn't need Hill, and he isn't exactly lighting it up. Mathieu just wasn't a gamble Payton wanted to take. Yea SBJ was probably one of the worst picks they have made since Payton has been here. I am still scratching my head about that. Dude Hill is lighting it up. He ran for a ton vs us. OK bad example but didnt he run for 1300 yds rookie year?

05-13-2016, 03:22 AM	#72
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by Seer1 And that's assuming Reid wouldn't have been used as poorly as Vaccaro has been.... I'm of a mind that our draft history is crap both because it has been mostly crap over the years and this is the second year of pretty much a whole new draft regime. Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse.

05-13-2016, 09:18 AM	#73
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by billyt81 Dude Hill is lighting it up. He ran for a ton vs us. OK bad example but didnt he run for 1300 yds rookie year? 2015 Co rushing TD leader. Not bad for the hometown product (Baton Rouge). Cincy gave him another chance and he is making the most of it. Good for Hill .

05-13-2016, 09:47 AM	#74
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,210 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by billyt81 Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse. So far, generally agree. This is the tell tale year for him. K Major likes this.

05-13-2016, 12:33 PM	#75
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by billyt81 Vaccarro isnt used wrong as much as he just isnt very good. In what area does he excel? I think Roman Harper is still better. Harper led the team in tackles many games and Vaccarro is no better in coverage if not worse. He's come in like every other DB we've drafted, thrown out on the field uncoached and on the fast train to bust. The only real decent players we have out in the backfield have had the advantage of actually being coached at the NFL level with another team that actually does that. He was a real crowd pleaser his first year except no one taught him about not using his head when tackling. We don't know where he excels because he's not really been given the chance or the coaching to do that.

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05-13-2016, 01:01 PM	#76
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Does Sean hates LSU Originally Posted by Seer1 He's come in like every other DB we've drafted, thrown out on the field uncoached and on the fast train to bust. The only real decent players we have out in the backfield have had the advantage of actually being coached at the NFL level with another team that actually does that. He was a real crowd pleaser his first year except no one taught him about not using his head when tackling. We don't know where he excels because he's not really been given the chance or the coaching* to do that. Seer, I do expect to see good progress from our secondary for 2016. Mainly because of the assistance coaches we've added. Giunta* & Glenn will bring grit that we've lacked over the years. FWIW, Glenn did a really good job with Joe Haden in his development while he was up in Cleveland.

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