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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL What exactly is broken? Other than rushing the ball, name a single team offensive stat where this offense was not in the top 10 of the league? I've been looking at this stat on Pro Football ...
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05-17-2016, 02:45 PM | #11 |
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Grest post bruh. Great ****ing post.
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05-17-2016, 02:48 PM | #12 |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
This is the same discussion I have with my brother. I'll say here the same thing I say to him:
It's a waste of time. Payton has been HC going on 10 years. He was an OC before then. He has never run the ball with any real consistency. And frankly, between he and Brees, they never ever will. For those of you who are not clued in, the Saints offense always comes to the line with two called plays, typically a run and a pass. Brees switches to the other play by calling "Kill! Kill!". Observe how many times he changes the play to a pass and you'll understand what I'm talking about. It may be forgotten that Payton had his playcalling duties taken away from him in Dallas by Parcells because he didn't run the ball consistently. The only time the Saints have run the ball consistently in the last 10 years is late in the game with a lead. The last two years with the terrible defense, those opportunities are few and far between. If you want a more consistent running game, then set up a defense that can hold a lead. Otherwise, forget it. And BTW my opinion is that while running the ball effectively may make the offense more explosive, due to more effective play action, that it really doesn't make the Saints' offense too much more efficient. In today's NFL more yards and more efficiency comes from the passing game. Over the last 10 years Brees has averaged 7.7 yards per attempt. That the average of all passes both complete and incomplete along with interceptions. The highest career running back yards per carry is 5.5 with Jamaal Charles of KC. What exactly is the fixation on running the ball when you can get nearly double the number of yards each time you try to throw it? SFIAH |
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05-17-2016, 06:43 PM | #13 |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
Here we go again with the offense needing to be carried by the defense. Where were the packers, colts, and cowboys in these rankings? They were dealing with injuries. Otherwise saints are behind them. And the old offense would be better than Arizona. |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
I just remember us being up 14-0 on Carolina, got back to back stops early against Detroit, held eagles to 13 points in their place in the first half, the defense did not break until after the offense did in these games. How does an improved defense help us score 20 points in Houston, 27 points against Dallas, avoiding what happened to Brees against TB, and the choke against Tennessee(come on you really think we were gonna shut them out?)? We had good first q defenses last year outside of NYG and Was, fluke starts against Az and Hou, but the offenses were poor and led the defense to collapse.
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and FYI- this asinine article isn't about the strength of our line, it's about building a line from the center out, and how we supposedly only employ short guards and centers because Brees can't see over them. |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
This might be a good place for this article... Let's just say maybe the players aren't the problem:
Dan Roushar giving Saints offensive line new life after disappointing year | NOLA.com |
05-17-2016, 10:48 PM | #17 |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
^Saw that on the other forum. More secrets. I remember when Streif said last year there was no magic formula after being 0-2. I guess he was referring to the oline.
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
You are right about the stats. People ***** that our offense has lost a step, and statistically it hasnt. Brees had less interceptions than he has in years last year and we torched some pretty decent defenses. Our line does still need work though. If for no other reason than to extend Brees career AND help the next guy develop after Brees leaves. Even if our defense does improve we will still win only 7-8 games if our offense slips at all. An offensive line always needs work.
Ours has especially lacked in run blocking as of late. Also all that statistical dribble made my head hurt. We ran the ball just fine in 09 and 11. Top 5 if I am not mistaken. |
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Re: Despite common narrative, Saints do not necessarily build offensive line from inside out
Are we expecting a defense that can play a whole half constantly on the field non-stop with no breaks in between?
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