New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care

rezburna · 05-24-2016, 02:07 PM

We'll be playing in the Superdome until the entire city sinks. New Orleans is the most unique city in the United States. It was one of the largest slave ports in the United States. The blend of West African, French, Spanish, and Native American cultures is on full display in the city. The New Orleans accent is as distinctive as a Jamaican accent, and is actually just a distant cousin of it seeing how it too is bred out West African and French dialects. Even the bad things about New Orleans make it unique. The food. The 2nd lines. Mardi Gras. No city can top New Orleans.

My great grandma is in her 90's now. I remember when I had my son and brought him to meet her. Her great-great-grandson. How often does that get to happen? She'd tell me how she used to take care of me in the 9th Ward and how she'd put me in the swing so I wouldn't be so dependent on being held. In true New Orleans fashion she told me, "Now don't you spurl (spoil) that baby ya hear? I didn't spurl you, and look at you. I'm so proud of you."

New Orleans > The World

Supertek · 05-24-2016, 02:29 PM

I was for building a new stadium before all the renovations. Was willing to do my share either through taxes or donations. The main reason for me was having to deal with the infrastructure in New Orleans itself. Terrible Parking, long walks to get to the dome, trying to get out of there after a game, rip-offs, and general danger in the downtown area itself. Of course that doesn't matter now. Just a theory I was told that part of the Benson rift with his siblings is that they were siding with moving the team to San Antonio. It is bad to have deal with the NFL money machine yet the reality to me is if we do not build a new stadium in the future we could very well see the departure of the Saints.

exile · 05-24-2016, 03:01 PM

And just like that the NFL ignores all the good New Orleans comments. Good try guys.

Rugby Saint II · 05-24-2016, 04:58 PM

It is one of the most recognizable structures in the US. It is the background(back bone) of the skyline.

jeanpierre · 05-25-2016, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I was for building a new stadium before all the renovations. Was willing to do my share either through taxes or donations. The main reason for me was having to deal with the infrastructure in New Orleans itself. Terrible Parking, long walks to get to the dome, trying to get out of there after a game, rip-offs, and general danger in the downtown area itself. Of course that doesn't matter now. Just a theory I was told that part of the Benson rift with his siblings is that they were siding with moving the team to San Antonio. It is bad to have deal with the NFL money machine yet the reality to me is if we do not build a new stadium in the future we could very well see the departure of the Saints.

Three points:

Love the Saints, but you're more than welcome to donate your disposable income for my portion, but don't vote to tax me to accommodate your inconveniences or shortcomings...
Pay attention to history, but it was Tom Benson who tried to move post-Katrina and the coward sent Rita out with Tagliabue to allay public fears after the NFL avoided the PR disaster...
The NFL gets tax shelters and anti-trust exemptions and extort, under threat of departure, municipal public funds for operational costs they obviously could absorb with their revenues...

And the traffic problems are not because of the Superdome, it's awful year round because of politically corrupt planning commissions and because Orleans and Jefferson Parish use the Interstate for local traffic; public funds have been mis-allocated (stolen) for other projects, like that monolithic eye-sore - Orleans Parish Prison which greets visitors downtown and is accentuated with a billboard above it in the skyline that advertises "Who's Your Daddy DNA Testing"...

The money should have been spent on local express ways and better public transportation...

CheramieIII · 05-25-2016, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Three points:

Love the Saints, but you're more than welcome to donate your disposable income for my portion, but don't vote to tax me to accommodate your inconveniences or shortcomings...

Pay attention to history, but it was Tom Benson who tried to move post-Katrina and the coward sent Rita out with Tagliabue to allay public fears after the NFL avoided the PR disaster...

The NFL gets tax shelters and anti-trust exemptions and extort, under threat of departure, municipal public funds for operational costs they obviously could absorb with their revenues...

And the traffic problems are not because of the Superdome, it's awful year round because of politically corrupt planning commissions and because Orleans and Jefferson Parish use the Interstate for local traffic; public funds have been mis-allocated (stolen) for other projects, like that monolithic eye-sore - Orleans Parish Prison which greets visitors downtown and is accentuated with a billboard above it in the skyline that advertises "Who's Your Daddy DNA Testing"...

The money should have been spent on local express ways and better public transportation...

Agreed, but New Orleans politics have always been corrupt. We got the Saints when it was corrupt. My Dad was in the Assessors Office growing up on Carrollton Avenue and I saw a lot in my early years. I won't tell you who my Dad was friends with but let me just say that they were more powerful than the Governor at one point.

The reason I mention this is to say that it's always been corrupt and always will be and that corruption will find a way to keep the Saints in New Orleans forever.

The population of New Orleans was about 580,000 in 1967 and decreased every year until 2006 when it started increasing again after Katrina. The population has increased every year since Katrina and now stands at about 400,000. The New Orleans Metro Area was 1,167,000 as of the 2010 census and most assuredly is 1,300,000 now and this population puts us about 500,000 to 600,000 behind Nashville and Indy but neither of those cities has the charm, character or history of New Orleans and never will. New Orleans is a Super City with a Superdome, host of many Superbowls and the Superest fans in the World.

The region has fought back after Katrina and showed it will never die. New Orleans will be raised above any increase in sea level. Relocating New Orleans would be like relocating the Vatican to Mecca. Just like relocating the Saints would rip the heart out of a region of rabid football fans. It just ain't gonna ever happen.

CheramieIII · 05-26-2016, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by exile

So is the Astrodome. Even better it was one of the World Wonders. But don't let my pessimistic attitude change your mind. I admire your fortitude.

The Astrodome would've fit inside the Superdome. Too bad Houston saw fit to destroy a piece of history and the first domed stadium.

I can deal with pessimistic. We've been talking about the Saints leaving for, oh wait, FREAKING EVER and we will have at least at couple of years advance notice if it did happen. I don't see why worrying about it even if it was a remote possibility is sensible at all!

Audiotom · 05-30-2016, 04:14 PM

The Superdome is just another dome stadium
And a boring outdated one at that, no big deal

I would prefer an old dome to a place with glitzy penthouse suites

We don't have the corporate structure to support it either

The charm is the city, great food, walking distance to everything, people that welcome them with open arms, warm weather, revelry, parades, musicians, pagemtry

Who want to go to Minnesota?

Goodell probably had his goons pull the light switches

skymike · 05-30-2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You know, the Red Sox have played at Fenway Park since 1912......

you know.... all the talk about millions and amenities, and new, glamorous stadiums just makes me want to puke.

I would rather watch a game in a historic venue, with hot dogs and a place to pee, than all this high-dollar short attention span garbage designed to attract the people least likely to care about the games.

I dont need f###*** amenities... I just want grass, players, and a ball, and a screaming crazy crowd.... football would sell itself, if they will stop trying to Disney-fy everything.

05-24-2016, 02:07 PM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care We'll be playing in the Superdome until the entire city sinks. New Orleans is the most unique city in the United States. It was one of the largest slave ports in the United States. The blend of West African, French, Spanish, and Native American cultures is on full display in the city. The New Orleans accent is as distinctive as a Jamaican accent, and is actually just a distant cousin of it seeing how it too is bred out West African and French dialects. Even the bad things about New Orleans make it unique. The food. The 2nd lines. Mardi Gras. No city can top New Orleans. My great grandma is in her 90's now. I remember when I had my son and brought him to meet her. Her great-great-grandson. How often does that get to happen? She'd tell me how she used to take care of me in the 9th Ward and how she'd put me in the swing so I wouldn't be so dependent on being held. In true New Orleans fashion she told me, "Now don't you spurl (spoil) that baby ya hear? I didn't spurl you, and look at you. I'm so proud of you." New Orleans > The World Crusader likes this.
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05-24-2016, 02:29 PM	#12
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care I was for building a new stadium before all the renovations. Was willing to do my share either through taxes or donations. The main reason for me was having to deal with the infrastructure in New Orleans itself. Terrible Parking, long walks to get to the dome, trying to get out of there after a game, rip-offs, and general danger in the downtown area itself. Of course that doesn't matter now. Just a theory I was told that part of the Benson rift with his siblings is that they were siding with moving the team to San Antonio. It is bad to have deal with the NFL money machine yet the reality to me is if we do not build a new stadium in the future we could very well see the departure of the Saints.

05-24-2016, 03:01 PM	#13
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05-24-2016, 04:58 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care It is one of the most recognizable structures in the US. It is the background(back bone) of the skyline. CheramieIII and RailBoss like this.

05-25-2016, 05:55 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care Originally Posted by Supertek I was for building a new stadium before all the renovations. Was willing to do my share either through taxes or donations. The main reason for me was having to deal with the infrastructure in New Orleans itself. Terrible Parking, long walks to get to the dome, trying to get out of there after a game, rip-offs, and general danger in the downtown area itself. Of course that doesn't matter now. Just a theory I was told that part of the Benson rift with his siblings is that they were siding with moving the team to San Antonio. It is bad to have deal with the NFL money machine yet the reality to me is if we do not build a new stadium in the future we could very well see the departure of the Saints. Three points: Love the Saints, but you're more than welcome to donate your disposable income for my portion, but don't vote to tax me to accommodate your inconveniences or shortcomings... Pay attention to history, but it was Tom Benson who tried to move post-Katrina and the coward sent Rita out with Tagliabue to allay public fears after the NFL avoided the PR disaster... The NFL gets tax shelters and anti-trust exemptions and extort, under threat of departure, municipal public funds for operational costs they obviously could absorb with their revenues... And the traffic problems are not because of the Superdome, it's awful year round because of politically corrupt planning commissions and because Orleans and Jefferson Parish use the Interstate for local traffic; public funds have been mis-allocated (stolen) for other projects, like that monolithic eye-sore - Orleans Parish Prison which greets visitors downtown and is accentuated with a billboard above it in the skyline that advertises "Who's Your Daddy DNA Testing"... The money should have been spent on local express ways and better public transportation...
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05-25-2016, 05:54 PM	#16
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care Originally Posted by jeanpierre Three points: Love the Saints, but you're more than welcome to donate your disposable income for my portion, but don't vote to tax me to accommodate your inconveniences or shortcomings... Pay attention to history, but it was Tom Benson who tried to move post-Katrina and the coward sent Rita out with Tagliabue to allay public fears after the NFL avoided the PR disaster... The NFL gets tax shelters and anti-trust exemptions and extort, under threat of departure, municipal public funds for operational costs they obviously could absorb with their revenues... And the traffic problems are not because of the Superdome, it's awful year round because of politically corrupt planning commissions and because Orleans and Jefferson Parish use the Interstate for local traffic; public funds have been mis-allocated (stolen) for other projects, like that monolithic eye-sore - Orleans Parish Prison which greets visitors downtown and is accentuated with a billboard above it in the skyline that advertises "Who's Your Daddy DNA Testing"... The money should have been spent on local express ways and better public transportation... Agreed, but New Orleans politics have always been corrupt. We got the Saints when it was corrupt. My Dad was in the Assessors Office growing up on Carrollton Avenue and I saw a lot in my early years. I won't tell you who my Dad was friends with but let me just say that they were more powerful than the Governor at one point. The reason I mention this is to say that it's always been corrupt and always will be and that corruption will find a way to keep the Saints in New Orleans forever. The population of New Orleans was about 580,000 in 1967 and decreased every year until 2006 when it started increasing again after Katrina. The population has increased every year since Katrina and now stands at about 400,000. The New Orleans Metro Area was 1,167,000 as of the 2010 census and most assuredly is 1,300,000 now and this population puts us about 500,000 to 600,000 behind Nashville and Indy but neither of those cities has the charm, character or history of New Orleans and never will. New Orleans is a Super City with a Superdome, host of many Superbowls and the Superest fans in the World. The region has fought back after Katrina and showed it will never die. New Orleans will be raised above any increase in sea level. Relocating New Orleans would be like relocating the Vatican to Mecca. Just like relocating the Saints would rip the heart out of a region of rabid football fans. It just ain't gonna ever happen.
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05-26-2016, 07:35 AM	#17
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care Originally Posted by exile So is the Astrodome. Even better it was one of the World Wonders. But don't let my pessimistic attitude change your mind. I admire your fortitude. The Astrodome would've fit inside the Superdome. Too bad Houston saw fit to destroy a piece of history and the first domed stadium. I can deal with pessimistic. We've been talking about the Saints leaving for, oh wait, FREAKING EVER and we will have at least at couple of years advance notice if it did happen. I don't see why worrying about it even if it was a remote possibility is sensible at all!

05-30-2016, 04:14 PM	#18
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care The Superdome is just another dome stadium And a boring outdated one at that, no big deal I would prefer an old dome to a place with glitzy penthouse suites We don't have the corporate structure to support it either The charm is the city, great food, walking distance to everything, people that welcome them with open arms, warm weather, revelry, parades, musicians, pagemtry Who want to go to Minnesota? Goodell probably had his goons pull the light switches

05-30-2016, 06:57 PM	#19
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: New Orleans owns Super Bowl, but NFL doesn't care Originally Posted by jeanpierre You know, the Red Sox have played at Fenway Park since 1912...... you know.... all the talk about millions and amenities, and new, glamorous stadiums just makes me want to puke. I would rather watch a game in a historic venue, with hot dogs and a place to pee, than all this high-dollar short attention span garbage designed to attract the people least likely to care about the games. I dont need f###*** amenities... I just want grass, players, and a ball, and a screaming crazy crowd.... football would sell itself, if they will stop trying to Disney-fy everything. pumpkindriver likes this.

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