Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown

Rugby Saint II · 05-23-2016, 05:08 PM

We have about seven players vying for the fifth receiver position. We shall see.

jeanpierre · 05-23-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If I am not mistaken, if you sign a veteran player before June 1st his acquisition is factored into the compensatory pick calculations. Boldin is one of those players that would count quite a bit in that calculation, while Vincent Brown shouldn't have any affect whatsoever.

The 2017 Compensatory Pick Season Begins: Here's What To Expect At OTC - Over the Cap

jeanpierre · 05-23-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If I am not mistaken, if you sign a veteran player before June 1st his acquisition is factored into the compensatory pick calculations. Boldin is one of those players that would count quite a bit in that calculation, while Vincent Brown shouldn't have any affect whatsoever.

It depends on what they're signed for and how that contract's terms, value falls among other Free Agent contracts for that season...

Originally Posted by ScottF

Depends on the amount that player signs for...

and since we usually cut guys, not "lose" them to FA, it is usually a wash for us. In other words, we won't get anything if Evans or Colston sign elsewhere

and wasn't Boldin cut? if so, he wouldn't count against us

Boldin had signed a two year deal in March 2014 (Seasons 2014, 2015); his contract reached term, he's simply an URFA...

jeanpierre · 05-23-2016, 05:26 PM

I'd say there are maybe three safe bets right now among the wide receivers - Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead and rookie second round pick Michael Thomas...

Brandon Coleman is no guarantee with those questionable hands; big guy, working his butt off, but he's got to be a sure thing with those hands...

Even with Coleman in the fold, this is the least amount of experience we've had at wide receiver since 2006 and the arrival of Marques Colston...

jeanpierre · 05-23-2016, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Our current WR coach John Morton did work with Boldin out in San Fran.

Shouldn't that count for something ?

And the fact Boldin wasn't signed?

Too much quan? Not enough in the tank?

Or maybe it's a case of let the young guns play, get reps, develop?

ScottF · 05-23-2016, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The 2017 Compensatory Pick Season Begins: Here's What To Expect At OTC - Over the Cap

Watson for Fleener is probably a wash, or a neg for us
Our only other significant loss was Robinson, although Bush might factor in as a 7th round comp, BUT, we signed Fairley, Laurinaitis, Robertson, and Stupar
So, pretty much no pick for us either way, so sign away

Danno · 05-23-2016, 06:37 PM

Boldin is probably entertaining offers from several teams.

Maybe we just aren't on the top of his list?

ChrisXVI · 05-23-2016, 06:43 PM

We simply don't sign big name veteran WR's. Never have under Payton. He likes players who can be molded to fit our system and aren't set in their ways.

Danno · 05-23-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We simply don't sign big name veteran WR's. Never have under Payton. He likes players who can be molded to fit our system and aren't set in their ways.

Interesting. Come to think of I can't remember the last proven vet we signed at WR.

AsylumGuido · 05-23-2016, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We simply don't sign big name veteran WR's. Never have under Payton. He likes players who can be molded to fit our system and aren't set in their ways.

This is true.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If I am not mistaken, if you sign a veteran player before June 1st his acquisition is factored into the compensatory pick calculations. Boldin is one of those players that would count quite a bit in that calculation, while Vincent Brown shouldn't have any affect whatsoever. The 2017 Compensatory Pick Season Begins: Here's What To Expect At OTC - Over the Cap

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If I am not mistaken, if you sign a veteran player before June 1st his acquisition is factored into the compensatory pick calculations. Boldin is one of those players that would count quite a bit in that calculation, while Vincent Brown shouldn't have any affect whatsoever. It depends on what they're signed for and how that contract's terms, value falls among other Free Agent contracts for that season... Originally Posted by ScottF Depends on the amount that player signs for... and since we usually cut guys, not "lose" them to FA, it is usually a wash for us. In other words, we won't get anything if Evans or Colston sign elsewhere and wasn't Boldin cut? if so, he wouldn't count against us Boldin had signed a two year deal in March 2014 (Seasons 2014, 2015); his contract reached term, he's simply an URFA...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown I'd say there are maybe three safe bets right now among the wide receivers - Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead and rookie second round pick Michael Thomas... Brandon Coleman is no guarantee with those questionable hands; big guy, working his butt off, but he's got to be a sure thing with those hands... Even with Coleman in the fold, this is the least amount of experience we've had at wide receiver since 2006 and the arrival of Marques Colston...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by K Major Our current WR coach John Morton did work with Boldin out in San Fran. Shouldn't that count for something ? And the fact Boldin wasn't signed? Too much quan? Not enough in the tank? Or maybe it's a case of let the young guns play, get reps, develop?

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by jeanpierre The 2017 Compensatory Pick Season Begins: Here's What To Expect At OTC - Over the Cap Watson for Fleener is probably a wash, or a neg for us Our only other significant loss was Robinson, although Bush might factor in as a 7th round comp, BUT, we signed Fairley, Laurinaitis, Robertson, and Stupar So, pretty much no pick for us either way, so sign away

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We simply don't sign big name veteran WR's. Never have under Payton. He likes players who can be molded to fit our system and aren't set in their ways. Interesting. Come to think of I can't remember the last proven vet we signed at WR.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Saints Signing WR Vincent Brown Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We simply don't sign big name veteran WR's. Never have under Payton. He likes players who can be molded to fit our system and aren't set in their ways. This is true.

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