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QBREES9 05-28-2016 08:19 AM

Re: Rob Ryan: "I did a damn good job and got fired for it"
 
Go prove everyone wrong. Thanks for the memories.

NonieT 05-28-2016 11:51 AM

Re: Rob Ryan: "I did a damn good job and got fired for it"
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704964)
Would those lining up plays be a problem if the players were doing what Rob liked to do? SP should not have been trying to stick his hand in.

Do you really believe after finishing 4th in defense the previous season Payton had anything to do with the scheme change? Because if you do I have some bridges I'd like to sell you, real cheap. Ryan tried to do the same thing in Dallas. It didn't work and he can't blame that on Payton.

spkb25 05-28-2016 11:56 AM

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here is where you can see what people thought about his hiring. It is kind of cool to go back and see what you thought:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/55294...ordinator.html

spkb25 05-28-2016 11:57 AM

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here is a good one:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/55671...-too-many.html

WhoDatFan26 05-28-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 704913)
I'm still kind of undecided about Malcolm Jenkins

I still haven't forgiven him for blowing the lead in 2011 playoff game vs 49ers, 3 point lead with 40 seconds to go and he gets beat by Vernon davis for a 50 yard catch and run.

The game shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Vernon Davis should have been doubled off the line. None of their wideouts would've hurt us. But, what's done is done.

WhoDatFan26 05-28-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 704920)
My thoughts exactly!

Jenkins was an average slow CB disguised as a FS who constantly took awful angles and had bricks for hands.

He was not the player then that he is now after doing some serious work on improving his craft and playing in the system the Eagles have.

RR on the otherhand, can talk all he wants... it doesn't change the fact that he failed.

In 2013 his last year, Malcolm gave up only 486 yards which was second best among Safeties. The kid worked perfectly with Kenny because they both were versatile. We lost that versatility with Byrd. But hey, to each his own.

|Mitch| 05-28-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 704998)
here is where you can see what people thought about his hiring. It is kind of cool to go back and see what you thought:

Here is what I said:

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 477745)
No way he can do as bad as what Spags did... I'll just have to trusst Sean on this one


WhoDatFan26 05-28-2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704962)
Easily win what game? 2013? I doubt it. If 2010, maybe but Brees struggled in that game.


In 2010 Seattle kept attacking Roman Harper in coverage. If Jenkins plays that game that TE doesn't go crazy with the catches.

NonieT 05-28-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 705003)
In 2010 Seattle kept attacking Roman Harper in coverage. If Jenkins plays that game that TE doesn't go crazy with the catches.

of course they attacked him in coverage because Harper couldn't cover my grandmother and she's been dead for years.

WhoDatFan26 05-28-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 705004)
of course they attacked him in coverage because Harper couldn't cover my grandmother and she's been dead for years.

Exactly and that was because Jenkins missed that game due to injury. If he had played, he would covered the TE not Harper.

WhoDatFan26 05-28-2016 02:10 PM

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By no means am I trying to remove Rob Ryan from blame(he deserves it), but certain moves shouldn't have been made.

RaginCajun83 05-28-2016 02:27 PM

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Stfu Rob, so it was the head coaches fault when the other teams fired you too?

Seer1 05-28-2016 04:52 PM

Re: Rob Ryan: "I did a damn good job and got fired for it"
 
Why hasn't this thread been merged with the 2016 Coaching Staff thread?

Hahahahaha!

He did a damned bad job and got paid for it!

WillSaints81 05-28-2016 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 704970)
The oline had issues last season, absolutely no doubt. To pretend a D that 31rst and 32nd is absurd. They also could not get after the passer. I think we were first in penalties though.

I was talking about 2014. We lost the division because of the offensive ineptness against Atlanta.

spkb25 05-28-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 705021)
I was talking about 2014. We lost the division because of the offensive ineptness against Atlanta.

We lost the division because we won 7 ( one Tampa gave us ) ganes that year. We won 7 games because our d stunk and the online, especially at center, wasn't very good.

Cruize 05-29-2016 02:08 AM

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Average talent at best on defense. Bad coaching overall. The situational coaching in particular was horrible. There's just no other way to see it.

Rugby Saint II 05-29-2016 11:08 AM

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He is an unsuccessful DC. His record proves it. If not for his lineage and his larger than life persona(not a jab at his weight)he'd probably be coaching in some small state college.

His game plans are overly complicated and he can't make in game adjustments.

When he has all the players healthy and he has talent he can produce an adequate defense. He was decent in Dallas until injuries struck hard and got him fired. Then the bad luck followed him to New Orleans. It's hard to beat a good team when you are starting backups and they are missing assignments.

One of the analysts on the NFL channel made a good point when he said Rob Ryan didn't miss tackles or take bad angles. And this is true. They backups were not really ready to play in a starting role. However, he didn't hold them accountable either.

Sean Payton could see that his defense was floundering which is when he insisted that Ryan simplify his defense. Having said that I want to say this. Don't ever let Payton influence the defense!!!
He is great with the offense but he just doesn't get "it" when it comes to defense. Hopefully DA will get the job done. We shall see. But I think we've got the pieces in place to be a good defense. We have returning valuable rookies. We are getting back players from IR. And this years rookie class appears to be highly talented. Screw Rob Ryan! He'll throw his brother under the bus next.

spkb25 05-29-2016 04:59 PM

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Apparently Rob is up in Buffalo **** talking the patriots...moron

44Champs 05-29-2016 07:00 PM

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Didnt he also make excuses after he was fired in Dallas? I wish it would've worked out w him here cuz I would've started showing up at Ms Mae's on Sunday nights.

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WillSaints81 05-29-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 705022)
We lost the division because we won 7 ( one Tampa gave us ) ganes that year. We won 7 games because our d stunk and the online, especially at center, wasn't very good.

Well lets look at the games we lost. I will give you Atlanta on defense. However, Ingram was the best player that game. The offense still had the chance to win in OT. We were up 20-7 at halftime. On the other team's turf week 1 you cannot expect them not to try to come back. Brees did not put this game away.

Week 2-Cleveland, this is again on the offense, we had the ball and the chance to put the game away. Oline got Brees sacked on a big play. That Cleveland team ended up starting out 6-3.

Week 4-Defense was bad but offense didn't deliver either until it was too late. We held Bryant to 44 yards on top of it. Graham gave up on a pass that got picked when the saints were trying to get within 7.

Week 5-Again, Brees struggled early which led to the bucs nearly winning but somehow they tightened up in the second half and got to OT where we won.

Week 7-Had Brees not thrown that int, we don't lose that game.

Week 10-Again, this was a tight game, and the big fourth down play was what led to this loss. However, Graham really lost this game. And, Colston put a cap on it. This was the second OT this season he lost the game. But it was SF and we basically just allowed three more points in regulation compared to the season before.

Week 11-The offense did nothing this game. 27 points allowed does not happen without some offensive production.

Week 12-The defense lost this one here, yes.

Week 14-We never even put up a fight.

Week 16-Again, I already explained.

I'm not defending RR but I was more annoyed with the offense this year(and Graham) than I was the defense.

|Mitch| 05-29-2016 11:05 PM

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Who cares... offense or defense; RR is gone now and the DA era has begun...

blackangold 05-30-2016 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 705077)
Well lets look at the games we lost. I will give you Atlanta on defense. However, Ingram was the best player that game. The offense still had the chance to win in OT. We were up 20-7 at halftime. On the other team's turf week 1 you cannot expect them not to try to come back. Brees did not put this game away.

Week 2-Cleveland, this is again on the offense, we had the ball and the chance to put the game away. Oline got Brees sacked on a big play. That Cleveland team ended up starting out 6-3.

Week 4-Defense was bad but offense didn't deliver either until it was too late. We held Bryant to 44 yards on top of it. Graham gave up on a pass that got picked when the saints were trying to get within 7.

Week 5-Again, Brees struggled early which led to the bucs nearly winning but somehow they tightened up in the second half and got to OT where we won.

Week 7-Had Brees not thrown that int, we don't lose that game.

Week 10-Again, this was a tight game, and the big fourth down play was what led to this loss. However, Graham really lost this game. And, Colston put a cap on it. This was the second OT this season he lost the game. But it was SF and we basically just allowed three more points in regulation compared to the season before.

Week 11-The offense did nothing this game. 27 points allowed does not happen without some offensive production.

Week 12-The defense lost this one here, yes.

Week 14-We never even put up a fight.

Week 16-Again, I already explained.

I'm not defending RR but I was more annoyed with the offense this year(and Graham) than I was the defense.

So we have the worst defense in the NFL and you find a way to put most of the losses on the offense...

You can't expect the offense to play a perfect game every week just to try and keep up/cover up for a poor defense.

"We lost that game because Brees threw a pick. Yeah, so what the defense gave up 42 pts, but remember the 1 interception Brees threw." lol....

spkb25 05-30-2016 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 705077)
Well lets look at the games we lost. I will give you Atlanta on defense. However, Ingram was the best player that game. The offense still had the chance to win in OT. We were up 20-7 at halftime. On the other team's turf week 1 you cannot expect them not to try to come back. Brees did not put this game away.

Week 2-Cleveland, this is again on the offense, we had the ball and the chance to put the game away. Oline got Brees sacked on a big play. That Cleveland team ended up starting out 6-3.

Week 4-Defense was bad but offense didn't deliver either until it was too late. We held Bryant to 44 yards on top of it. Graham gave up on a pass that got picked when the saints were trying to get within 7.

Week 5-Again, Brees struggled early which led to the bucs nearly winning but somehow they tightened up in the second half and got to OT where we won.

Week 7-Had Brees not thrown that int, we don't lose that game.

Week 10-Again, this was a tight game, and the big fourth down play was what led to this loss. However, Graham really lost this game. And, Colston put a cap on it. This was the second OT this season he lost the game. But it was SF and we basically just allowed three more points in regulation compared to the season before.

Week 11-The offense did nothing this game. 27 points allowed does not happen without some offensive production.

Week 12-The defense lost this one here, yes.

Week 14-We never even put up a fight.

Week 16-Again, I already explained.

I'm not defending RR but I was more annoyed with the offense this year(and Graham) than I was the defense.

WE WON 7 GAMES, AND ONE WAS GIVEN TO US...

I mean this is why we lost the division.

I don't care who your annoyed with, the defense was ranked 32.

You're right about the oline, however, especially at center, which was why we moved Jimmy and his huge contract for Max.

It was a mixture of things in '14, the oline and the defense, but the defense being 32 is a huge problem. That said you're right about the oline, I don't think anyone would say otherwise, I remember a sackless **** like Atlanta destroying Drew all game in the dome

spkb25 05-30-2016 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 705082)
So we have the worst defense in the NFL and you find a way to put most of the losses on the offense...

You can't expect the offense to play a perfect game every week just to try and keep up/cover up for a poor defense.

"We lost that game because Brees threw a pick. Yeah, so what the defense gave up 42 pts, but remember the 1 interception Brees threw." lol....

That's it. The oline had issues, no doubt, but being 32 is a problem...no way around it

spkb25 05-30-2016 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 705079)
RR is gone now ...

And I couldn't be happier

WillSaints81 06-01-2016 07:56 PM

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So I remember saying this on the other forum and it makes a lot of sense. Seattle got in our heads in 2013 and forced SP to try to implement a Seattle-style defense that RR was not accustomed to. That is losing your identity. The defense was not why we lost that game, we lost that game because we were in Seattle and we were in Seattle because they won 13 games that year. We needed to win three more games and we had a chance to do that but the offense gives the ball back to the team to to win two of them and the other we just struggled against a team who was undefeated at home.

To absolutely neglect the offense that season was no excuse. We could held on to what we had on defense and put our focus on oline and receiver that offseason. Would the defense have been as bad had we done that? I'm not sure. but at least we would not have struggled on the offensive side as well.

NonieT 06-01-2016 08:15 PM

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In 2013 the defense got the offense out of a lot of jams they go themselves into. That's the kind of defense I want, only better against the run.

Seer1 06-01-2016 08:21 PM

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... What? Izzit football season already????

WillSaints81 06-01-2016 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 705362)
In 2013 the defense got the offense out of a lot of jams they go themselves into. That's the kind of defense I want, only better against the run.

Only in the first couple weeks and in Atlanta and against SF. Otherwise, we were dominant at home and lost our last three road games. I mean I don't know if that defense is coming back but the offense should not be in those situations to begin with, especially at home. Brown's problems did not cost us at home that year, but on the road it did.

NonieT 06-02-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 705381)
Only in the first couple weeks and in Atlanta and against SF. Otherwise, we were dominant at home and lost our last three road games. I mean I don't know if that defense is coming back but the offense should not be in those situations to begin with, especially at home. Brown's problems did not cost us at home that year, but on the road it did.

I did say I want them to be better against the run. The season we lost those road games is because that defense was such a disaster against the run. The reason we beat Atlanta was because they had no run game. We beat SF because all they tried to do was run and Ryan put 8 men in the box. Kap couldn't capitalize. And the offense put themselves in those situations. Who is Brown?

vpheughan 06-02-2016 10:42 AM

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Yeah! But What If?

Utah_Saint 06-02-2016 11:49 AM

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I'm pretty sure "did a damn good job" and 31st ranked defense are mutually exclusive standards.

In his 12 seasons as a Defensive Coordinator he only had 3 that ranked in the top half of the league.

He has a history of making excuses but not good defenses.

4everSaint 06-03-2016 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 704874)
Added Ryan: "I think I have always advanced the head coach's plan. But at the end of the day, the last two years in New Orleans were a waste of time for me. ... I was hired to be in a multiple system in New Orleans, and I did a damn good job and got fired for it. I'm more hungry now than I have ever been. So I wanted to go with the right guy. And the right guy is someone I have 100 percent trust in and 100 percent faith in.

So what you are saying Rob, is; I'm pissed I lost my job while performing poorly at it. So, I'll take my ball and go to my brother's home.

Now go get some GD snacks with Rex! Loser.

RailBoss 06-03-2016 09:30 PM

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The Rougarou is just mad because the food was better in New Orleans.
Plus now he has to deal with getting wing sauce stuck all over his face.
I'm just glad that he's up North outta here.

Seer1 06-04-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 705633)
The Rougarou is just mad because the food was better in New Orleans.
Plus now he has to deal with getting wing sauce stuck all over his face.
I'm just glad that he's up North outta here.

Now can we please let this ****in' thread die?

RailBoss 06-04-2016 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 705638)
Now can we please let this ****in' thread die?

LOL Indeed!

QBREES9 06-04-2016 12:15 AM

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LOL LOL LOL Yeah right ha ha ha ha ha ha


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