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dizzle88 05-27-2016 07:20 AM

Rob Ryan: "I did a damn good job and got fired for it"
 
Apparently, Rob Ryan thinks ranking 31st in the league 2 years in a row is a good thing!!

How can the blame be pointing to anything other than the defense when the offense has never ranked outside of Top 5 in the 10 years Payton has been here.


Rob Ryan tells website he did a 'damn good job' with Saints and got fired for it | NOLA.com

Former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said his last two seasons with the Saints "were a waste of time" and that he did a "damn good job and got fired for it," he said in an interview with theMMQB.com.

"Everyone wants to run Seattle's defense," Ryan said. "They should have hired a Seattle coach. I did the best job I could. Under the circumstances, trust me, I did the best job I could. I'll be better anywhere else. (Pause). I'll be great anywhere else. But it was unfortunate."

Ryan, hired by his brother Rex as an assistant head coach with the Buffalo Bills, said "there are two years that don't have my signature on them, and it's the last two years in New Orleans. And that's just the truth."

The one season Ryan said had his signature was his first with the Saints, in 2013, when he took over a defense that ranked last in yards allowed and it ranked fourth in that category as the Saints went 11-5 and made the playoffs.

The Saints ranked 31st in total yards allowed in 2014 and 2015, and the team fired him 10 games into the 2015 season.

Added Ryan: "I think I have always advanced the head coach's plan. But at the end of the day, the last two years in New Orleans were a waste of time for me. ... I was hired to be in a multiple system in New Orleans, and I did a damn good job and got fired for it. I'm more hungry now than I have ever been. So I wanted to go with the right guy. And the right guy is someone I have 100 percent trust in and 100 percent faith in.

ChrisXVI 05-27-2016 07:40 AM

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He did have a good point though that they made him change his system and try to be more like Seattle. It was obvious that they neutered him by bringing in Dennis Allen and making everything more vanilla.

CheramieIII 05-27-2016 07:43 AM

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Ryan has a name only.

hagan714 05-27-2016 08:03 AM

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proof do not drink the juice.

K Major 05-27-2016 08:06 AM

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He made similar comments after Jerry Jones fired him up here in Death star nation. We've moved on.

saintsfan1976 05-27-2016 08:11 AM

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He's "more hungry"?

Wherever the equivalent of Ms Maes in Buffalo is, better watch out.

Crusader 05-27-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 704885)
He's "more hungry"?

Wherever the equivalent of Ms Maes in Buffalo is, better watch out.

Oh snap!

saintsfan1976 05-27-2016 08:16 AM

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Look, I'm sure there is truth to what Ryan is claiming but I'm also sure there was reason for the moves.

Regardless, he wasn't getting the job done and he wasted our time more than we wasted his.

I'm sure none of those checks bounced...

ChrisXVI 05-27-2016 08:37 AM

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exile 05-27-2016 08:53 AM

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I watch football not to have to watch the drama of daytime TV. It was fun. It's over. Let's get back to football.

Thirty3 05-27-2016 08:59 AM

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He was definately a scape goat.

lee909 05-27-2016 09:14 AM

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How many years in his career as a DC has he had a top 10 defense

dizzle88 05-27-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 704895)
How many years in his career as a DC has he had a top 10 defense

Only twice I believe.

I can understand when someone says Payton had his hand in the defense and that probably wasn't great, however it was Rob Ryans Job to get the defense performing and he failed.

The fact that no one knew how to line up on defense is nothing to do with Payton, that's Rob's job and he used the exact same excuse when Dallas got rid of him.

dam1953 05-27-2016 09:47 AM

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And if the past two seasons are RR's definition of a "damn good job" ... I hate to see what he would have called a "piss poor job."

The man is dilusional.

halloween 65 05-27-2016 09:53 AM

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If Ryan was able to install his own coaching staff and implement the 3-4 with players that fit the mold, I don't think we would have ranked as low as we did. Now it's Allen with the good ole' boys, I get to see how this goes.

CheramieIII 05-27-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 704895)
How many years in his career as a DC has he had a top 10 defense

1 in 12 years as a defensive coordinator and 4 in the top 20. NOT A GOOD RECORD AT ALL!

ScottF 05-27-2016 09:58 AM

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His comments are barely coherent. in one sentence he did a damn good job, and in the next he did his best.
I really don't give a crap what system he ran or was forced to run. Bottom line, players were undisciplined, missing tackles, taking stupid penalties, and always out of position. That sh** should be worked out by Sunday, regardless of the 'system'. Not to mention the 18 times we had too few or too many players on the field

The Dude 05-27-2016 10:11 AM

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I think that may be our problem on D and have said it before. You can't immulate another teams players unless you have the right personnel installed and that takes a couple years. Payton should have let Ryan do his own thing like Williams did.

dam1953 05-27-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 704891)

And what...Sean wasn't there in 2013? You could also make the case that 2013 (RR's 1st year) was a fluke and had as much to do with Spag's coaching in 2012 (and no I'm not saying it did) and Sean's return. Following 2013 RR had two more years which went from "ballin" to terrible before finally set a new standard in god-awful in 2015.

The nice thing about the NFL is that retread coaches sooner or later have to face reality. If he repeats Dallas and NO in Buffalo...then the final chapter will be written... and RR will have to look in the mirror and tell himself that he sucks.

WhoDatFan26 05-27-2016 12:39 PM

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The biggest mistake that was made was letting Malcolm Jenkins go. The kid was a Pro Bowler in 2010 but got hurt in the 2nd to last game and missed the playoff game against Seattle. If he plays we easily win that game. The system Rob installed was perfect for him but we thought we could find a better fit in Byrd. We are now on the 2nd attempt to replace Malcolm Jenkins. Hopefully we don't make too many more mistakes like that going forward.

NOLA54 05-27-2016 12:51 PM

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It still remains that the defense did not perform under his guidance. What I hate is that he wasted Drew Brees' time, keeping him from the playoffs, division titles and championships.

dizzle88 05-27-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 704909)
The biggest mistake that was made was letting Malcolm Jenkins go. The kid was a Pro Bowler in 2010 but got hurt in the 2nd to last game and missed the playoff game against Seattle. If he plays we easily win that game. The system Rob installed was perfect for him but we thought we could find a better fit in Byrd. We are now on the 2nd attempt to replace Malcolm Jenkins. Hopefully we don't make too many more mistakes like that going forward.

I'm still kind of undecided about Malcolm Jenkins

I still haven't forgiven him for blowing the lead in 2011 playoff game vs 49ers, 3 point lead with 40 seconds to go and he gets beat by Vernon davis for a 50 yard catch and run.

NonieT 05-27-2016 01:35 PM

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Malcolm Jenkins was terrible when he was with the Saints. His tackling was poor, and he took bad angles. He said himself that he was bad and that is why he worked to improve himself, because the Saints refused to re-sign him. If he had stayed do you think he would have gotten any better? I don't.

FinSaint 05-27-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 704919)
Malcolm Jenkins was terrible when he was with the Saints. His tackling was poor, and he took bad angles. He said himself that he was bad and that is why he worked to improve himself, because the Saints refused to re-sign him. If he had stayed do you think he would have gotten any better? I don't.

My thoughts exactly!

Jenkins was an average slow CB disguised as a FS who constantly took awful angles and had bricks for hands.

He was not the player then that he is now after doing some serious work on improving his craft and playing in the system the Eagles have.

RR on the otherhand, can talk all he wants... it doesn't change the fact that he failed.

spkb25 05-27-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 704882)
He made similar comments after Jerry Jones fired him up here in Death star nation. We've moved on.

EXACTLY!!!

spkb25 05-27-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 704876)
He did have a good point though that they made him change his system and try to be more like Seattle. It was obvious that they neutered him by bringing in Dennis Allen and making everything more vanilla.

Actually, DA wasn't brought in until the beginning of his third season. So actually his point is BS, DA wasn't here his second year.

He couldn't get players lined up and this was the same complaints Dallas had about him.

spkb25 05-27-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 704891)

I am sure that wasn't JG...Nahhhhhh

spkb25 05-27-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 704904)
His comments are barely coherent. in one sentence he did a damn good job, and in the next he did his best.
I really don't give a crap what system he ran or was forced to run. Bottom line, players were undisciplined, missing tackles, taking stupid penalties, and always out of position. That sh** should be worked out by Sunday, regardless of the 'system'. Not to mention the 18 times we had too few or too many players on the field

jesus can i like this 5 times

spkb25 05-27-2016 04:07 PM

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Year Tm Yds Pts TkA
2004 OAK 30 31 30
2005 OAK 27 25 29
2006 OAK 3 18 27
2007 OAK 22 26 21
2008 OAK 27 24 17
2009 CLE 31 21 31
2010 CLE 22 13 13
2011 DAL 14 16 16
2012 DAL 19 24 28
2013 NOR 4 4 29
2014 NOR 31 28 28
2015 NOR 31 32 19

THAT TOOK ME SO LONG TO FIX

44Champs 05-27-2016 04:13 PM

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He has 12 years experience as a DC. He's been ranked in the bottom half of the league in points allowed and yards allowed for 9 of those years. He can say whatever he wants, but his record speaks for itself.

http://m.pfref.com/m?p=XXcoachesXXRy...m&t=0#glossary


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spkb25 05-27-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 704929)
He has 12 years experience as a DC. He's been ranked in the bottom half of the league in points allowed and yards allowed for 9 of those years. He can say whatever he wants, but his record speaks for itself.

Rob Ryan Coaching Record - m.pfref.com


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YEP YEP- AND YEP

spkb25 05-27-2016 04:20 PM

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I am just pissed that after his third year in Oakland they hired Sean Payton and his defense tanked

NonieT 05-27-2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 704904)
His comments are barely coherent. in one sentence he did a damn good job, and in the next he did his best.
I really don't give a crap what system he ran or was forced to run. Bottom line, players were undisciplined, missing tackles, taking stupid penalties, and always out of position. That sh** should be worked out by Sunday, regardless of the 'system'. Not to mention the 18 times we had too few or too many players on the field

This! And if he had a problem with the scheme he should have said something. And don't tell me it could have gotten him fired because he kept his mouth shut and got fired anyway.

WillSaints81 05-28-2016 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 704909)
The biggest mistake that was made was letting Malcolm Jenkins go. The kid was a Pro Bowler in 2010 but got hurt in the 2nd to last game and missed the playoff game against Seattle. If he plays we easily win that game. The system Rob installed was perfect for him but we thought we could find a better fit in Byrd. We are now on the 2nd attempt to replace Malcolm Jenkins. Hopefully we don't make too many more mistakes like that going forward.

Easily win what game? 2013? I doubt it. If 2010, maybe but Brees struggled in that game.

WillSaints81 05-28-2016 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 704912)
It still remains that the defense did not perform under his guidance. What I hate is that he wasted Drew Brees' time, keeping him from the playoffs, division titles and championships.

The oline is to blame for 2014's collapse. Saints held the falcons well until they were gassed.

WillSaints81 05-28-2016 01:50 AM

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Would those lining up plays be a problem if the players were doing what Rob liked to do? SP should not have been trying to stick his hand in.

spkb25 05-28-2016 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704964)
Would those lining up plays be a problem if the players were doing what Rob liked to do? SP should not have been trying to stick his hand in.

Well here is the question I can't shake from everyone claiming a "new scheme" was implemented and that was what doomed RR.

If that is true then what happened year 2?

It would make sense for the Saints to talk to RR about altering the scheme if they felt that year two of his defense was a disaster. The thing I do not get is that everyone is pretending there were not three years with Rob here. Yes, year one we were 4rth in pts and yards, and the d looked great. Next season we were terrible. No one is claiming that year 2 is when the supposed changes were made. It is all about last year, his third season. It makes sense for that to happen because a good many of us wanted him fired. DA was brought in after his second season, when we were terrible. At the end of the day Rob must have been forced to run other people's defenses a lot in his career. In 12 years he has 2 top 10 defenses and (including the 2 top 10 d's) he has 4 top 20 d's. SP didn't coach all of those places.

Lining up was an issue in his first season, if I am to remember back correctly.

spkb25 05-28-2016 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704963)
The oline is to blame for 2014's collapse. Saints held the falcons well until they were gassed.

The oline had issues last season, absolutely no doubt. To pretend a D that 31rst and 32nd is absurd. They also could not get after the passer. I think we were first in penalties though.

spkb25 05-28-2016 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704964)
Would those lining up plays be a problem if the players were doing what Rob liked to do? SP should not have been trying to stick his hand in.

From my memory, yes

spkb25 05-28-2016 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 704962)
Easily win what game? 2013? I doubt it. If 2010, maybe but Brees struggled in that game.

2010 we lost every running back we had. That was what happened. We could not run the ball. We had an old Julius Jones as our starting rb. I remember him dropping a pass close to the Seahawks endzone that game. Think it was intercepted.


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