Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped

WillSaints81 · 06-02-2016, 01:55 AM

At some point it's got to be true. I mean as I said SP panicked after losing to Seattle and tried to copy their defense. And I hate doing this but in 2014 we had no number 2 corner, a hurt starting safety, one who had a sophomore slump, and were in our first year without Vilma, Harper, Greer, Jenkins. How can RR make a defense with those missing pieces better? And by taking RR's power away I don't think we are necesarrily talking about when Allen came in but that SP got involved in RR's playcalling and I could see that being the season after 2013. If not it was because Byrd got hurt.

We might be fixing it now but it's honestly time we accept that SP screwed up the 2014 offseason.

spkb25 · 06-02-2016, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

At some point it's got to be true. I mean as I said SP panicked after losing to Seattle and tried to copy their defense. And I hate doing this but in 2014 we had no number 2 corner, a hurt starting safety, one who had a sophomore slump, and were in our first year without Vilma, Harper, Greer, Jenkins. How can RR make a defense with those missing pieces better? And by taking RR's power away I don't think we are necesarrily talking about when Allen came in but that SP got involved in RR's playcalling and I could see that being the season after 2013. If not it was because Byrd got hurt.

We might be fixing it now but it's honestly time we accept that SP screwed up the 2014 offseason.

Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did
Harper wasn't a loss.
I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go.
Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury.

Finally, What happened in Oakland?

WillSaints81 · 06-02-2016, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did
Harper wasn't a loss.
I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go.
Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury.

Finally, What happened in Oakland?

Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect.

spkb25 · 06-02-2016, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect.

Dude you can't have it both ways. It can't be Sean did it and when it happens in Oakland it was because the team stunk. He has had two top 10 defenses and 2 top 20 defenses in 12 years. That means 2/3 of the time his d is in the other side of 20. No, it wasn't Sean

06-02-2016, 01:55 AM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped At some point it's got to be true. I mean as I said SP panicked after losing to Seattle and tried to copy their defense. And I hate doing this but in 2014 we had no number 2 corner, a hurt starting safety, one who had a sophomore slump, and were in our first year without Vilma, Harper, Greer, Jenkins. How can RR make a defense with those missing pieces better? And by taking RR's power away I don't think we are necesarrily talking about when Allen came in but that SP got involved in RR's playcalling and I could see that being the season after 2013. If not it was because Byrd got hurt. We might be fixing it now but it's honestly time we accept that SP screwed up the 2014 offseason. MatthewT and WhoDatFan26 like this.

06-02-2016, 04:32 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by WillSaints81 At some point it's got to be true. I mean as I said SP panicked after losing to Seattle and tried to copy their defense. And I hate doing this but in 2014 we had no number 2 corner, a hurt starting safety, one who had a sophomore slump, and were in our first year without Vilma, Harper, Greer, Jenkins. How can RR make a defense with those missing pieces better? And by taking RR's power away I don't think we are necesarrily talking about when Allen came in but that SP got involved in RR's playcalling and I could see that being the season after 2013. If not it was because Byrd got hurt. We might be fixing it now but it's honestly time we accept that SP screwed up the 2014 offseason. Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did Harper wasn't a loss. I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go. Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury. Finally, What happened in Oakland?
	Your team stinks

06-02-2016, 01:21 PM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by spkb25 Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did Harper wasn't a loss. I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go. Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury. Finally, What happened in Oakland? Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect.

06-02-2016, 04:13 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect. Dude you can't have it both ways. It can't be Sean did it and when it happens in Oakland it was because the team stunk. He has had two top 10 defenses and 2 top 20 defenses in 12 years. That means 2/3 of the time his d is in the other side of 20. No, it wasn't Sean jnormand and Beastmode like this.

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