New Orleans Saints projected to go 5-11 by Pro Football Focus
 

The New Orleans Saints are projected by Pro Football Focus to have their poorest season since before the team hired Sean Payton and signed Drew Brees.

The 5-11 mark projected by the scouting and analytics site would be worse than the 7-9 marks the Saints have tallied in three of the last four seasons.

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Let me start by throwing the BS flag. .00009% chance of this happening. Now, if the .00009% chance happens, Drew will be shown the door. No way we pay a QB 20+ million a year to win 5 games. We would go into the Draft with GG as out qb and draft the beast LF7. Saints once again become a dominant running team as LF7 goes for 2K yards.

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Clearly these people are idiots.

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We went 7-9 with poor coaching and 7 rookies playing significant time on defense.
We upgraded every weakness, hired better coaches and had a very good draft.

Anything can happen but I'd be surprised by 5-11. Major injuries would be the only way I see that happening, but that can happen to any team so that shouldn't be baked into their predictions.

I think our floor is 8-8 with an 11-5 ceiling.

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Their reasoning...

A 37-year-old Brees is "bound to decline eventually."
Their linebackers have graded poorly.

Uhh, OK. I think we've upgraded every unit on defense.

D-Line - Much Better
ILB - Better but more importantly smarter.
OLB's - Lots of ascending young talent
CB's - Better
Safeties - Same or better with a healthy Byrd and a hot shot Vonn Bell added to the mix.

We lost 9 games, several of them in the last few seconds of the game due to defensive failures (Browner???), mostly communication breakdowns. I just can't see this team getting worse with all of the off-season additions. We'll play smarter and faster.

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BlackandGold.com would probably melt down going through a 5-11 season...

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They'd probably blame Roman Harper and Malcolm Jenkins.;)

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AT the Worst we're 9-7. No way we got 7-9 for a third straight year and 5-11 is just preposterous!! Drew along is worth 6 games.

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That would be a good reason to sign Harper again! :-D

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"bound to decline eventually" is true.

But I don't think it's gonna happen this season.

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We're going to go 13-3 and it's going to cause the media's brains to collectively explode as they realize their own stupidity.

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got to disagree, this place would be the perfect distraction from the Saints going through a 5-11 season

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as for the douche canoe at PFF


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Not to be a downer guys, but with us having the 4th toughest schedule next season, only taking 1 D-Lineman in the draft and 0, LB's, I just don't see that much improvement from the D this year. I've been rewatching games from last year, and watching our D is like having a root canal. It's really painful to watch. You're expecting them to allow any team to move up and down the field at will and only not do that by making a mistake of their own that would keep them from doing so, cause this Saints D can't stop a stiff breeze. Now, with only 1 quality D-Lineman and the signing of Laurinitus, you now think that all of a sudden this D is now gonna be formidable? Really? I mean, I live, breathe, and bleed Black and Gold, but even I don't see that happening. That would literally take a miracle to happen so since there haven't been any miracles in quite a long time, I just don't see it happening. Not only is the D, one injury away from being the worst D in the league again, the O isn't much better off. I think we all need to calm down just a bit and realize just what this team did in the offseason which wasn't much, and see the team for what it is without all the glitz, hope and dreams for this year and see what this team really is and that's a team that's still rebuilding and is a year and more likely two away from being even good. At least good enough to contend for a playoff berth. If you think we'll make the playoffs this year, I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for a major disappointment. I'm just going to look for some improvement from our 2nd year players and hope we get some kind of complementary play from our newest crop of rookies. If we do better than 6-10 or 7-9, that will just be gravy.

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The part about them "realizing their own stupidity," good luck with that! Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, no matter how the Saints finish.

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This projection is feckless...

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As long as the O-line is good enough for Brees step up to throw and stout enough to get Ingram and hightower good holes I can see 6-7 games there. We'll only go now as far as this D will carry us. Brees won that many with terrible, terrible D's. Come on good ole' boys. I'm waiting.

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I guess I'm going in...

This is true.Those two don't really jibe. First off the days of only improving through the draft are long gone. Both veteran and rookie free agents give opportunities to upgrade without having to draft talent. Laurinaitis and Fairley are significant upgrades at their positions.

Honestly, there are only about 20 drafted rookies that come in and make immediate impacts. So just because the draft wasn't the route doesn't mean that there isn't improvement.
The makeup of this Saints organization doesn't really require formidable. What it is does require is not to be historically horrible. In 3 of the last 4 years, the defense was exactly that, historically horrible. But in 2013, really out of nowhere, the defense was top 5 in many categories. A turnaround in a single year.

Do not rewatch the defense from last year. Here's why:

1. Browner is gone.
2. Ryan is gone.
3. A rookie is no longer orchestrating the show.
4. (Finger crossed) Much less of a M.A.S.H unit with the terrible spate of injuries.

It is amazing the runaround when you simply have the correct number of people on the field, in the proper position, ready to do their job. Last season the phrase "Keystone Kops" definitely comes to mind. So just burn the tape and move on.
I can't share your pessimism. I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid. But in the Payton era, each season where the defense held the opposition to under 350 points for the season, the team has won more than 10 games and made the playoffs. That's just shy of 22 PPG. Now it's a lift (last year 474 total, 29+ PPG). But 22 PPG was 14th last year. It isn't impossible.

So I watch and wait. I just hope to see a defense that doesn't give up 45 TD passes, 54 1st downs by penalty, and 29 PPG. Anything will be better than that.

SFIAH

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it would be a great bet that they do better than 5-11, give me vegas please.
we have drew brees and he just has to score 1 point more than the defense gives up, i'm in.

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Not completely here. It may even be worth it to watch the epic meltdown at the other board though.

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You are right but none of that will matter if our offense takes a step back. We better hope Brees can still get it done and our O line steps up. If it wasn't for our offense being top 5 we wouldn't have won a single game.

That being said I think we will be fine. I agree with your 8-8 11-5 assessment.

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As far as predictions go, 5-11 looks to be about right. But with that being said, in the NFL predictions rarely ever pan out. There is always an unexpected team make it to the playoffs just about every year. I would say do not go to sleep on the Saints because they have the greatest potential to be that sleeper team that no body expects this year.

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look at most of the mock drafts were they predict the seasons and the saints and the bucs are battling for the cellar.

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Playing 15-1 Carolina twice skews our strength of schedule greatly. Without their 30-2 contribution our schedule is pretty middle of the pack.

I could see a two game drop by us if we'd lost some significant players, but we didn't.

It all seems predicated on Drew declining. The problem with that is that he's shown no signs whatsoever of declining skills.

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When we won the SB, our D finished the season ranked #20. That's all I want this year... a top 20 D and we're back in serious contention.

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Not that it really matters but it's more fun to have low expectations and surprise people than high expectations and disappoint.

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It would be so much fun and entertaining to watch those wantabe know it alls go into full meltdown mode over there because they take things way to seriously

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What is Pro Football Focus again? Oh, I remember it's a POS!

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You can flip that to 11-5

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I agree QB. I thought about that when I posted my comment.

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Somehow I'd find a way to blame myself.;)