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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Dennis Allen could turn this into the #1 defense this year; the first play where they do something wrong. Fans will call for his head. Gregg Williams blitzed too much and RR didn't blitz enough... Huge improvement or not; you're ...

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Old 06-13-2016, 08:52 PM   #1
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Re: Saints hope to design a defense that’s multiple and easy to execute

Dennis Allen could turn this into the #1 defense this year; the first play where they do something wrong. Fans will call for his head.

Gregg Williams blitzed too much and RR didn't blitz enough...

Huge improvement or not; you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:58 AM   #2
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Re: Saints hope to design a defense that’s multiple and easy to execute

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Dennis Allen could turn this into the #1 defense this year; the first play where they do something wrong. Fans will call for his head.

Gregg Williams blitzed too much and RR didn't blitz enough...

Huge improvement or not; you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...
I'd disagree with this...the real problem is a lack of pass rush from the front four and good deep safety play...

Blitz packages are designed to force errors, interceptions, forced fumbles or at the least forgo deep passing routes, not to be relied upon for some pass rush when there's none...

When you're blitzing as much as we are, by the second half of games, opposing quarterbacks had adapted and could make the deep throws against suspect coverage (Browner)...

On paper going into this season, the results remain to be seen, we have a nucleus of seven defensive linemen with the versatility to be moved along the front and create mismatches...

During the Superbowl run we had an underrated mix that of Will Smith, Remi Ayodele, Anthony Hargrove, Bobby McCray with the liability of Sed Ellis in the middle...

2013, our last good defensive effort, Rob Ryan's first season, we featured a 3-4 front rotation of Cam Jordan, Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins, Tom Johnson, Akiem Hicks, Tyrunn Walker, Glenn Foster with Junior Gallette coming from the Jack LBer position; that was abandoned between Galette's unraveling, Payton's desire to mimic Seattle and allowing Malcolm Jenkins to walk by overpaying for Byrd...

I'd say this year's group is comparable to 2013 having a rotation of Cam Jordan, Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Bobby Richardson, Kasim Edebali; and that's without knowing if Rankins can be as effective in the NFL and not knowing what Onyemata will be able to contribute immediately; losing Kikaha from the edge is gonna hurt, but Edebali, Tull, Gwachum have an opportunity to step up...

Plus you now have probably the smartest middle linebacker to make field adjustments in the Payton tenure with Laurinaitis - if he can physically return to some form and an excellent 1a type backup in Craig Robertson who can definitey run then you have a guy who can line the guys up for mismatches...

It's all about the front four and base pass rush...
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Re: Saints hope to design a defense that’s multiple and easy to execute

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Dennis Allen could turn this into the #1 defense this year; the first play where they do something wrong. Fans will call for his head.

Gregg Williams blitzed too much and RR didn't blitz enough...

Huge improvement or not; you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...
There are idiots everywhere unfortunately. But if Allen significantly improves this defense, the vast majority of Saints fans won't really care how he did it.
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There are idiots everywhere unfortunately. But if Allen significantly improves this defense, the vast majority of Saints fans won't really care how he did it.
Agreed. And if the defense is really improved. the results show quickly. In the last 4 seasons the Saints defense has finished with 350 points or less (2009,2010,2011,2013) each squad won at least 5 of their first 8 games.

The defense helps with a fast start out the gate. And fans love that fast start.

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Gregg Williams blitzed too much and RR didn't blitz enough...
Kudos for spelling the guy's name correctly... I mean he was instrumental in winning the SB, but still people keep misspelling his name.
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Kudos for spelling the guy's name correctly... I mean he was instrumental in winning the SB, but still people keep misspelling his name.
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