Minicamp Practice Updates

ChrisXVI · 06-14-2016, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I wouldn't rule out the smaller guys yet.

Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity.

frydaddy · 06-14-2016, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity.

Indeed. Kikaha brought the intensity, we'll definitely miss that this year. Hopeful for Gwachum though. We have a lot of new position coaches this year and if they can tap into the potential of guys like him and Onyemata we could have a freak nasty D-line in the next couple of years.

|Mitch| · 06-14-2016, 08:24 PM

Gwachum did play defensive end at Oregon State, RR moved him to outside linebacker.

He should feel right at home with the switch back to his favored position

And Gwachum benched 225 22 times to Kikaha's 20 pre-draft, and ran a 4.7 40 to Kikaha's 4.9...

Danno · 06-15-2016, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity.

Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate.

I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms.

I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it?

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/

jeanpierre · 06-15-2016, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate.

I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms.

I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it?

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/

It's another attempt within Sports Sabremetrics to try to predict how good an athlete will be...

While it does help to check the boxes, what's between the ears and beating in the chest still can only be measured with followup interviews, at best...

At the end of the day, a good scout/coach will go and watch, say a wide receiver for example, how does he get off the line and is he "sudden" in his breaks on consistent, discipline routes...

With regards to Tull, I would like to have seen the Saints try in the past offseason for him to take a shot at MLB, with his speed and burst, that's be real asset in the middle...

jeanpierre · 06-15-2016, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate.

I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms.

I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it?

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/

Speaking of Tull's SPARQ score; well, there you geaux, Danneaux...

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Danno · 06-15-2016, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Speaking of Tull's SPARQ score; well, there you geaux, Danneaux...

Yeah, I've read from numerous "draft gurus" that Tull's get-off is just unbelievably fast.

06-14-2016, 07:13 PM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity. Indeed. Kikaha brought the intensity, we'll definitely miss that this year. Hopeful for Gwachum though. We have a lot of new position coaches this year and if they can tap into the potential of guys like him and Onyemata we could have a freak nasty D-line in the next couple of years.

06-14-2016, 08:24 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Gwachum did play defensive end at Oregon State, RR moved him to outside linebacker. He should feel right at home with the switch back to his favored position And Gwachum benched 225 22 times to Kikaha's 20 pre-draft, and ran a 4.7 40 to Kikaha's 4.9... MarchingOn likes this.

06-15-2016, 08:45 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity. Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate. I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms. I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it? https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/

06-15-2016, 09:09 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by Danno Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate. I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms. I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it? https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/ It's another attempt within Sports Sabremetrics to try to predict how good an athlete will be... While it does help to check the boxes, what's between the ears and beating in the chest still can only be measured with followup interviews, at best... At the end of the day, a good scout/coach will go and watch, say a wide receiver for example, how does he get off the line and is he "sudden" in his breaks on consistent, discipline routes... With regards to Tull, I would like to have seen the Saints try in the past offseason for him to take a shot at MLB, with his speed and burst, that's be real asset in the middle...
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06-15-2016, 01:36 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by Danno Ever heard of sparq scores? Its supposed to be a combination of physical measurements and performance metrics from the combine. Its kinda like a QB rating but for all NFL prospects and I've heard its pretty accurate. I don't know much about the details but I did read that Davis Tull ranked #1 out of all the edge players in the 2015 draft, despite his shorter arms. I need to read more about it. Anyone else familiar with it? https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings2015/edge/ Speaking of Tull's SPARQ score; well, there you geaux, Danneaux... Twitter Danno likes this.

06-14-2016, 07:03 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by halloween 65 I wouldn't rule out the smaller guys yet. Definitely not... Tull is gonna put some serious heat on QB's this season. It's just good to know that one of the guys has the prototypical size; that won't matter though if he doesn't have the intensity. halloween 65 likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Minicamp Practice Updates Originally Posted by jeanpierre Speaking of Tull's SPARQ score; well, there you geaux, Danneaux... Yeah, I've read from numerous "draft gurus" that Tull's get-off is just unbelievably fast. CheramieIII and SmashMouth like this.

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