Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible

LKelley67 · 03-06-2005, 02:28 AM

ESPN's John Clayton had this comment when evaluating Hayward to the Jags-

Clayton's take: Hayward's addition is a plus because he was the best on the market. If the Jaguars can trade Donovin Darius to New Orleans for defensive end Darren Howard, they would have one of the best defensive lines in the AFC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2004380

-RVD- · 03-06-2005, 03:48 AM

I hope we don\'t make the trade.Darren Howard is worth a lot more than that.

BreesFN9 · 03-06-2005, 04:12 AM

I disagree, A little. It\'s based on pending needs, and the Saints need to adress the Safety position as it\'s been a weakness. Howard MAY be at the moment 1 for 1 more valuble but this changes when you figure we still have Grant and Smith to cover the spot. We are not comfortable with the saftey position, but are comortable with the DE position even with Howard gone. Thus the deal makes sense to me. Also I\'m not sure what Darius is set to make, so there could be some Cap space cleared??

no_cloning · 03-06-2005, 07:44 AM

I wouldn\'t be too unhappy with that trade. If it was a simple draft, sure, Howard over Darius. But one of the main reasons to get rid of Howard is his cap number (7.8 million) or simply his salary (is his contribution really worth half a million dollars a game?). Darius right now is set to make about 5 million, but that number will drop when the Saints sign him to a long-term contract.

It\'s a fair deal like the McCarthy deal. The Saints give up a lot, but they get someone at a need position. I also prefer a player-for-player deal to trading away Howard for a draft pick. How confident are you the Saints are able to find a Donovan Darius in the second round?

papz · 03-06-2005, 11:35 AM

They would have THE BEST... not one the of best defensive line in the NFL. Hayward, Stroud, Henderson, Howard... that\'s just flat out insane.

BreesFN9 · 03-06-2005, 12:28 PM

I agree with Jacksonville having one of the top DEF lines in football, If they get Howard too. They\'re in a div With Manning, Carr, Mcnair ( possibly ), and I wonder if they\'re worried about giving up Darius and exposing the secondary too much for those QB\'s who all have Guns for arms. Mind you if they do....Run Manning ....RUN!!

mutineer10 · 03-06-2005, 12:39 PM

I agree with Jacksonville having one of the top DEF lines in football, If they get Howard too. They\'re in a div With Manning, Carr, Mcnair ( possibly ), and I wonder if they\'re worried about giving up Darius and exposing the secondary too much for those QB\'s who all have Guns for arms. Mind you if they do....Run Manning ....RUN!!

Not to mention poor David Carr. He\'s been getting killed for two seasons as it is, this scenario might just spell his doom.

As for McNair, if this happens he\'ll probably retire!

BreesFN9 · 03-06-2005, 12:47 PM

Hey at least Carr can move...He has a chance......Manning......?????????????
He could have a short season!

03-06-2005, 02:28 AM	#1
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible ESPN's John Clayton had this comment when evaluating Hayward to the Jags- Clayton's take: Hayward's addition is a plus because he was the best on the market. If the Jaguars can trade Donovin Darius to New Orleans for defensive end Darren Howard, they would have one of the best defensive lines in the AFC. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2004380

03-06-2005, 03:48 AM	#2
-RVD- Registered Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 78	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible I hope we don\'t make the trade.Darren Howard is worth a lot more than that.

03-06-2005, 04:12 AM	#3
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible I disagree, A little. It\'s based on pending needs, and the Saints need to adress the Safety position as it\'s been a weakness. Howard MAY be at the moment 1 for 1 more valuble but this changes when you figure we still have Grant and Smith to cover the spot. We are not comfortable with the saftey position, but are comortable with the DE position even with Howard gone. Thus the deal makes sense to me. Also I\'m not sure what Darius is set to make, so there could be some Cap space cleared??

03-06-2005, 07:44 AM	#4
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible I wouldn\'t be too unhappy with that trade. If it was a simple draft, sure, Howard over Darius. But one of the main reasons to get rid of Howard is his cap number (7.8 million) or simply his salary (is his contribution really worth half a million dollars a game?). Darius right now is set to make about 5 million, but that number will drop when the Saints sign him to a long-term contract. It\'s a fair deal like the McCarthy deal. The Saints give up a lot, but they get someone at a need position. I also prefer a player-for-player deal to trading away Howard for a draft pick. How confident are you the Saints are able to find a Donovan Darius in the second round?
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249

03-06-2005, 11:35 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible They would have THE BEST... not one the of best defensive line in the NFL. Hayward, Stroud, Henderson, Howard... that\'s just flat out insane.

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03-06-2005, 12:28 PM	#6
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible I agree with Jacksonville having one of the top DEF lines in football, If they get Howard too. They\'re in a div With Manning, Carr, Mcnair ( possibly ), and I wonder if they\'re worried about giving up Darius and exposing the secondary too much for those QB\'s who all have Guns for arms. Mind you if they do....Run Manning ....RUN!!

03-06-2005, 12:39 PM	#7
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible I agree with Jacksonville having one of the top DEF lines in football, If they get Howard too. They\'re in a div With Manning, Carr, Mcnair ( possibly ), and I wonder if they\'re worried about giving up Darius and exposing the secondary too much for those QB\'s who all have Guns for arms. Mind you if they do....Run Manning ....RUN!! Not to mention poor David Carr. He\'s been getting killed for two seasons as it is, this scenario might just spell his doom. As for McNair, if this happens he\'ll probably retire!

03-06-2005, 12:47 PM	#8
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Howard-Darius Deal Still Possible Hey at least Carr can move...He has a chance......Manning......????????????? He could have a short season!