Faith, hope and Bum Phillips: The New Orleans Saints' cowboy coach

hagan714 · 06-28-2016, 06:26 AM

1981
1 1 George Rogers * Running back South Carolina
2 29 Russell Gary Defensive back Nebraska
2 51 Rickey Jackson * † Linebacker Pittsburgh
3 57 Frank Warren Defensive end Auburn
3 71 Hoby Brenner * Tight end USC
5 112 Louis Oubre Guard Oklahoma
5 128 Jerry Boyarsky Defensive tackle Pittsburgh
6 139 Nat Hudson Guard Georgia
6 144 Johnnie Poe Defensive back Missouri
6 166 Glen Redd Linebacker BYU
7 167 Kevin Williams Wide receiver USC
8 214 Gene Gladys Linebacker Penn State
8 215 Kevin Evans Defensive back Arkansas
9 222 Toussaint Tyler Running back Washington
10 249 Hokie Gajan Running back LSU
11 277 Lester Mickens Wide receiver Kansas
12 305 Jim Wilks Defensive end San Diego State

1982
1 13 Lindsay Scott Wide receiver Georgia
2 30 Brad Edelman * Guard Missouri
3 58 Rodney Lewis Defensive back Nebraska
3 66 Eugene Goodlow Wide receiver Kansas State
3 68 Kenny Duckett Wide receiver Wake Forest
3 76 John Krimm Defensive back Notre Dame
4 86 Morten Andersen * Placekicker Michigan State
5 114 Tony Elliott Defensive tackle North Texas
6 142 Marvin Lewis Running back Tulane
8 198 Chuck Slaughter Offensive tackle South Carolina

1983
2 38 Steve Korte Center Arkansas
3 65 John Tice Tight end Maryland
3 66 Cliff Austin Running back Clemson
4 98 Gary Lewis Defensive tackle Oklahoma State
8 206 David Greenwood Defensive back Wisconsin

1984
2 42 Jumpy Geathers Defensive end Wichita State
3 68 Terry Hoage Defensive back Georgia
3 69 Tyrone Anthony Running back North Carolina
4 97 Joel Hilgenberg * Center Iowa
5 123 Jitter Fields Defensive back Texas
6 156 Don Thorp Defensive tackle Illinois
8 210 Clemon Terrell Running back Southern Miss
9 237 Brian Hansen * Punter Sioux Falls
10 264 Paul Gray Linebacker Western Kentucky
11 291 Michel Bourgeau Defensive end Boise State
12 324 Byron Nelson Offensive tackle Arizona

1985
1 24 Alvin Toles Linebacker Tennessee
2 38 Daren Gilbert Offensive tackle Cal State Fullerton
3 68 Jack Del Rio * Linebacker USC
4 95 Billy Allen Defensive back Florida State
7 179 Eric Martin * Wide receiver LSU
8 206 Joe Kohlbrand Linebacker Miami (FL)
9 236 Earl Johnson Defensive back South Carolina
12 320 Treg Songy Defensive back Tulane

Now how can you slam bum and not give him credit for the foundation that built the dome patrol.

George Rogers over Lawrence Taylor? say what? close your eyes and just imagine Jackson and Taylor on the same field together. Old timers remember screaming and yelling at the pick and Bums love of the run game and his desire to find the next Earl Campbell. Right out of the gate Bum was in a corner with the fans and the media. It took a few years to see what else we got but he never really stood a chance. The microscope was upon him from that point on

But some of those FA moves and loyalty he showed to aging former players is a huge black eye.

Trading for Kenny Stabler and dumping Archie Manning was a huge mistake that many old timers still do not forgive the saints for. Kenny was the Gambler while he was a saint. Kenny the snake was long gone by the time he got here. No one played with a point spread like Kenny.

But he drafted the bulk of the front 7 that made the dome patrol what it was.

good FA
Bruce Clark
Bobby Hebert
Joel Hilgenberg

He did add my favorite name to the saints. Buddy had a ball with him
Guido Merkens

Frank Warren, Tony Elliott, Jumpy Geathers and Bruce Clark still do not get the credit they deserve.

Bum just could not change his ways and his love for days gone by. Lived and died with the run.

jeanpierre · 06-28-2016, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Now how can you slam bum and not give him credit for the foundation that built the dome patrol.

George Rogers over Lawrence Taylor? say what? close your eyes and just imagine Jackson and Taylor on the same field together. Old timers remember screaming and yelling at the pick and Bums love of the run game and his desire to find the next Earl Campbell. Right out of the gate Bum was in a corner with the fans and the media. It took a few years to see what else we got but he never really stood a chance. The microscope was upon him from that point on

But some of those FA moves and loyalty he showed to aging former players is a huge black eye.

Trading for Kenny Stabler and dumping Archie Manning was a huge mistake that many old timers still do not forgive the saints for. Kenny was the Gambler while he was a saint. Kenny the snake was long gone by the time he got here. No one played with a point spread like Kenny.

But he drafted the bulk of the front 7 that made the dome patrol what it was.

good FA
Bruce Clark
Bobby Hebert
Joel Hilgenberg

He did add my favorite name to the saints. Buddy had a ball with him
Guido Merkens

Frank Warren, Tony Elliott, Jumpy Geathers and Bruce Clark still do not get the credit they deserve.

Bum just could not change his ways and his love for days gone by. Lived and died with the run.

Well you made my case...

But while we did have some good drafts, look at what was on the boards when he selected...

I can't imagine not having Rickey Jackson in B&G, but Russell Gary was taken BEFORE Rickey...

Guess who was on the board and selected between Russell Gary and Jackson?

DL Howie Long, LB Mike Singletary and QB Neil Lomax (For those old enough to remember, Lomax was a helluva QB on some bad St. Louis Cardinal teams)...

Bum (like someone else we shall not name) threw picks around carelessly, traded picks for 30+ year old, broken down veterans...

Man was just too f*cking sentimental when it came to personnel decisions...

He wanted to make his job easier by having as few rookies as possible - and that's lazy coaching...

triman · 06-29-2016, 10:01 PM

Man I loved me some Bum
I had a great night ,one year when Bum was coach I attened the TD clubs Super Boil.
It is a long tale just take my word that Bum made it a special night for two faithful SAINTS FANs. Great guy.

06-28-2016, 06:26 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Faith, hope and Bum Phillips: The New Orleans Saints' cowboy coach 1981 1 1 George Rogers * Running back South Carolina 2 29 Russell Gary Defensive back Nebraska *2 51 Rickey Jackson † Linebacker Pittsburgh 3 57 Frank Warren Defensive end Auburn 3 71 Hoby Brenner * Tight end USC 5 112 Louis Oubre Guard Oklahoma 5 128 Jerry Boyarsky Defensive tackle Pittsburgh 6 139 Nat Hudson Guard Georgia 6 144 Johnnie Poe Defensive back Missouri 6 166 Glen Redd Linebacker BYU 7 167 Kevin Williams Wide receiver USC 8 214 Gene Gladys Linebacker Penn State 8 215 Kevin Evans Defensive back Arkansas 9 222 Toussaint Tyler Running back Washington 10 249 Hokie Gajan Running back LSU 11 277 Lester Mickens Wide receiver Kansas 12 305 Jim Wilks Defensive end San Diego State 1982 1 13 Lindsay Scott Wide receiver Georgia 2 30 Brad Edelman * Guard Missouri 3 58 Rodney Lewis Defensive back Nebraska 3 66 Eugene Goodlow Wide receiver Kansas State 3 68 Kenny Duckett Wide receiver Wake Forest 3 76 John Krimm Defensive back Notre Dame 4 86 Morten Andersen * Placekicker Michigan State 5 114 Tony Elliott Defensive tackle North Texas 6 142 Marvin Lewis Running back Tulane 8 198 Chuck Slaughter Offensive tackle South Carolina 1983 2 38 Steve Korte Center Arkansas 3 65 John Tice Tight end Maryland 3 66 Cliff Austin Running back Clemson 4 98 Gary Lewis Defensive tackle Oklahoma State 8 206 David Greenwood Defensive back Wisconsin 1984 2 42 Jumpy Geathers Defensive end Wichita State 3 68 Terry Hoage Defensive back Georgia 3 69 Tyrone Anthony Running back North Carolina 4 97 Joel Hilgenberg * Center Iowa 5 123 Jitter Fields Defensive back Texas 6 156 Don Thorp Defensive tackle Illinois 8 210 Clemon Terrell Running back Southern Miss 9 237 Brian Hansen * Punter Sioux Falls 10 264 Paul Gray Linebacker Western Kentucky 11 291 Michel Bourgeau Defensive end Boise State 12 324 Byron Nelson Offensive tackle Arizona 1985 1 24 Alvin Toles Linebacker Tennessee 2 38 Daren Gilbert Offensive tackle Cal State Fullerton 3 68 Jack Del Rio * Linebacker USC 4 95 Billy Allen Defensive back Florida State 7 179 Eric Martin * Wide receiver LSU** 8 206 Joe Kohlbrand Linebacker Miami (FL) 9 236 Earl Johnson Defensive back South Carolina 12 320 Treg Songy Defensive back Tulane Now how can you slam bum and not give him credit for the foundation that built the dome patrol. George Rogers over Lawrence Taylor? say what? close your eyes and just imagine Jackson and Taylor on the same field together. Old timers remember screaming and yelling at the pick and Bums love of the run game and his desire to find the next Earl Campbell. Right out of the gate Bum was in a corner with the fans and the media. It took a few years to see what else we got but he never really stood a chance. The microscope was upon him from that point on But some of those FA moves and loyalty he showed to aging former players is a huge black eye. Trading for Kenny Stabler and dumping Archie Manning was a huge mistake that many old timers still do not forgive the saints for. Kenny was the Gambler while he was a saint. Kenny the snake was long gone by the time he got here. No one played with a point spread like Kenny. But he drafted the bulk of the front 7 that made the dome patrol what it was. good FA Bruce Clark Bobby Hebert Joel Hilgenberg He did add my favorite name to the saints. Buddy had a ball with him Guido Merkens Frank Warren, Tony Elliott, Jumpy Geathers and Bruce Clark still do not get the credit they deserve. Bum just could not change his ways and his love for days gone by. Lived and died with the run. skymike likes this.
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06-28-2016, 03:53 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Faith, hope and Bum Phillips: The New Orleans Saints' cowboy coach Originally Posted by hagan714 Now how can you slam bum and not give him credit for the foundation that built the dome patrol. George Rogers over Lawrence Taylor? say what? close your eyes and just imagine Jackson and Taylor on the same field together. Old timers remember screaming and yelling at the pick and Bums love of the run game and his desire to find the next Earl Campbell. Right out of the gate Bum was in a corner with the fans and the media. It took a few years to see what else we got but he never really stood a chance. The microscope was upon him from that point on But some of those FA moves and loyalty he showed to aging former players is a huge black eye. Trading for Kenny Stabler and dumping Archie Manning was a huge mistake that many old timers still do not forgive the saints for. Kenny was the Gambler while he was a saint. Kenny the snake was long gone by the time he got here. No one played with a point spread like Kenny. But he drafted the bulk of the front 7 that made the dome patrol what it was. good FA Bruce Clark Bobby Hebert Joel Hilgenberg He did add my favorite name to the saints. Buddy had a ball with him Guido Merkens Frank Warren, Tony Elliott, Jumpy Geathers and Bruce Clark still do not get the credit they deserve. Bum just could not change his ways and his love for days gone by. Lived and died with the run. Well you made my case... But while we did have some good drafts, look at what was on the boards when he selected... I can't imagine not having Rickey Jackson in B&G, but Russell Gary was taken BEFORE Rickey... Guess who was on the board and selected between Russell Gary and Jackson? DL Howie Long, LB Mike Singletary and QB Neil Lomax (For those old enough to remember, Lomax was a helluva QB on some bad St. Louis Cardinal teams)... Bum (like someone else we shall not name) threw picks around carelessly, traded picks for 30+ year old, broken down veterans... Man was just too f*cking sentimental when it came to personnel decisions... He wanted to make his job easier by having as few rookies as possible - and that's lazy coaching...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

06-29-2016, 10:01 PM	#3
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Faith, hope and Bum Phillips: The New Orleans Saints' cowboy coach Man I loved me some Bum I had a great night ,one year when Bum was coach I attened the TD clubs Super Boil. It is a long tale just take my word that Bum made it a special night for two faithful SAINTS FANs. Great guy. skymike likes this.
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