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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 Reach Rankings Bell and Oneyamata Steal? none. Williams is odds on favorite 3 years down the road but that is just my opinion and we all know those are like If I may ask, how is ...

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Old 07-05-2016, 04:09 PM   #1
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Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft

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Reach Rankings Bell and Oneyamata
Steal? none. Williams is odds on favorite 3 years down the road
but that is just my opinion and we all know those are like
If I may ask, how is the #1 Rated DT in the Draft a Reach? Sheldon Rankins can play both The Run and Pass and more importantly, he plays them both effectively. He is able to play multiple fronts and multiple positions. He is the furthest thing from a reach. Even if he is just solid, he would be an indispensable piece of our team.
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If I may ask, how is the #1 Rated DT in the Draft a Reach? Sheldon Rankins can play both The Run and Pass and more importantly, he plays them both effectively. He is able to play multiple fronts and multiple positions. He is the furthest thing from a reach. Even if he is just solid, he would be an indispensable piece of our team.
Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. My fear is simple: he could be the media darling that got all the hype after the season was over not while he was on the field.
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Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. My fear is simple: he could be the media darling that got all the hype after the season was over not while he was on the field.
I beg to differ. As The Former Bears GM stated, Sheldon Rankins was one of the Safest Prospects in the Draft. You knew that he would give consistent effort, He would listen, he would take to Coaching and above all the kid has his head on straight. Just what The Saints need.
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Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. My fear is simple: he could be the media darling that got all the hype after the season was over not while he was on the field.
Doesn't matter. To call him a reach is ridiculous.
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Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft.
Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle.

You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line.

I don't see him as a reach at all.
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Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle.

You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line.

I don't see him as a reach at all.

watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M.

Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it
Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it
Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it.
So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun.


Will he be good? Probably
Will he be great? doubt it
Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it

I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole.

So he was a reach IMO at 12.

Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick.

Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting

Rankings reminds me of Peat -
lacks a ‘mean streak’
standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect.

That was basically how I saw this kid.

But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy.

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watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M.

Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it
Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it
Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it.
So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun.


Will he be good? Probably
Will he be great? doubt it
Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it

I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole.

So he was a reach IMO at 12.

Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick.

Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting

Rankings reminds me of Peat -
lacks a ‘mean streak’
standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect.

That was basically how I saw this kid.

But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy.
Sometimes, a DT doesn't shed blocks due to sheme and the need to tie up blockers to allow the LB's to flow to the ball.
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Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft

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I didn't have him as the #1 DT in the draft.

Fixed that for you
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