Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham

CheramieIII · 07-02-2016, 09:20 AM

But it really is sad that Graham's talent has really been wasted. This is why some players should take less money to stay right where they are.

CheramieIII · 07-02-2016, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

What movie is this from JP? I loved Emilio in Repo Man.

|Mitch| · 07-02-2016, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Good thing we're no longer spending tons of money on a super athletic 6' 6" TE who can't block... Hey wait a minute.

We traded Graham 1.0 for Unger and who became Anthony for Graham 2.0 (who could be better than Graham with Brees throwing him the ball; oh and he's played football/TE a lot longer than Graham has in his life[more experience]...)

Win/Win!

ChrisXVI · 07-02-2016, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

We traded Graham 1.0 for Unger and who became Anthony for Graham 2.0 (who could be better than Graham with Brees throwing him the ball; oh and he's played football/TE a lot longer than Graham has in his life[more experience]...)

Win/Win!

I just think saying we look like geniuses is really myopic. If we didn't have such an abysmal draft in 2014 we might not have needed to trade Graham to fill areas of weakness on our roster. It was a good move to cover for another giant blunder.

|Mitch| · 07-02-2016, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

If we didn't have such an abysmal draft in 2014 we might not have needed to trade Graham to fill areas of weakness on our roster. It was a good move to cover for another giant blunder.

I think Grahams cap hit was the reason for the trade; wasn't his hit right around 10 and going up rapidly with each subsequent year?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-02-2016, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

... but I dont miss Brees' constant tunnel vision ...

I'm just hoping this doesn't reappear with Fleener on the field. On 3rd down this year with Cooks, Sneed, Thomas, Fleener and take your pick of Ingram, Spiller, or Cadet out in the pattern, Brees' only vision needs to be the inevitable open receiver.

It just seems to me that if the O-line can pass protect, it's going to be really tough trying to cover all that talent with any consistency.

So here's to no tunnel vision!

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2016, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I think Grahams cap hit was the reason for the trade; wasn't his hit right around 10 and going up rapidly with each subsequent year?

No, cap hit had nothing to do with the trade. It was ALL about getting Max Unger. The Saints originally offered Kenny Stills for Unger, but Seattle demanded Graham instead and threw in the #1 pick, as well. The net affect of the trade actually INCREASED the cap hit on the Saints for the year.

halloween 65 · 07-02-2016, 11:26 AM

I liked every minute trading Puddin'. Jury is still out on Anthony?

Rugby Saint II · 07-02-2016, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

What movie is this from JP? I loved Emilio in Repo Man.

Men at Work is the name of the movie. They are two trash men that find a body and hilarity ensues. Look it up. It definitely worth a watch.

Euphoria · 07-02-2016, 11:36 AM

The one thing I have noticed is how we get players that 'fit our system'. You put those players in other systems and teams and they are crap, they get lost and you don't hear from them again. Unless they want to come back... example Mechum.

07-02-2016, 09:20 AM	#11
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham But it really is sad that Graham's talent has really been wasted. This is why some players should take less money to stay right where they are. skymike and WhoDatFan26 like this.

07-02-2016, 09:21 AM	#12
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by jeanpierre What movie is this from JP? I loved Emilio in Repo Man.

07-02-2016, 09:23 AM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Good thing we're no longer spending tons of money on a super athletic 6' 6" TE who can't block... Hey wait a minute. We traded Graham 1.0 for Unger and who became Anthony for Graham 2.0 (who could be better than Graham with Brees throwing him the ball; oh and he's played football/TE a lot longer than Graham has in his life[more experience]...) Win/Win!

07-02-2016, 09:30 AM	#14
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| We traded Graham 1.0 for Unger and who became Anthony for Graham 2.0 (who could be better than Graham with Brees throwing him the ball; oh and he's played football/TE a lot longer than Graham has in his life[more experience]...) Win/Win! I just think saying we look like geniuses is really myopic. If we didn't have such an abysmal draft in 2014 we might not have needed to trade Graham to fill areas of weakness on our roster. It was a good move to cover for another giant blunder.

07-02-2016, 09:33 AM	#15
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by ChrisXVI If we didn't have such an abysmal draft in 2014 we might not have needed to trade Graham to fill areas of weakness on our roster. It was a good move to cover for another giant blunder. I think Grahams cap hit was the reason for the trade; wasn't his hit right around 10 and going up rapidly with each subsequent year?

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07-02-2016, 10:40 AM	#16
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by jnormand ... but I dont miss Brees' constant tunnel vision ... I'm just hoping this doesn't reappear with Fleener on the field. On 3rd down this year with Cooks, Sneed, Thomas, Fleener and take your pick of Ingram, Spiller, or Cadet out in the pattern, Brees' only vision needs to be the inevitable open receiver. It just seems to me that if the O-line can pass protect, it's going to be really tough trying to cover all that talent with any consistency. So here's to no tunnel vision! SFIAH skymike and \|Mitch\| like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,222	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I think Grahams cap hit was the reason for the trade; wasn't his hit right around 10 and going up rapidly with each subsequent year? No, cap hit had nothing to do with the trade. It was ALL about getting Max Unger. The Saints originally offered Kenny Stills for Unger, but Seattle demanded Graham instead and threw in the #1 pick, as well. The net affect of the trade actually INCREASED the cap hit on the Saints for the year.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham I liked every minute trading Puddin'. Jury is still out on Anthony?

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by CheramieIII What movie is this from JP? I loved Emilio in Repo Man. Men at Work is the name of the movie. They are two trash men that find a body and hilarity ensues. Look it up. It definitely worth a watch.

07-02-2016, 11:36 AM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Look Like Geniuses For Trading Jimmy Graham The one thing I have noticed is how we get players that 'fit our system'. You put those players in other systems and teams and they are crap, they get lost and you don't hear from them again. Unless they want to come back... example Mechum.

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