Well it's over guys

burningmetal · 08-21-2016, 02:46 PM

I think a big reason Peat is shuffling around, isn't simply because they need help at different positions, but because they are trying to find some place where he isn't a complete liability. I thought he was incredibly underwhelming before they ever drafted him, and I sat here and watched the obligatory "don't judge him until he plays a down" comments last year.

But the fact is he is proving his doubters right, and until he turns it around, I don't know why anyone wants to make excuses for him. Shuffling around is not the reason for his struggles. His struggles are the reason for the shuffling. If you can play LT, where you are going against the other team's best pass rusher, then there's no excuse to not be able to handle the other side. I think he is a horrible fit for the interior, and I don't know why they would try him there for any reason other than to just throw something against the wall and hope it sticks.

spkb25 · 08-21-2016, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I think a big reason Peat is shuffling around, isn't simply because they need help at different positions, but because they are trying to find some place where he isn't a complete liability. I thought he was incredibly underwhelming before they ever drafted him, and I sat here and watched the obligatory "don't judge him until he plays a down" comments last year.

But the fact is he is proving his doubters right, and until he turns it around, I don't know why anyone wants to make excuses for him. Shuffling around is not the reason for his struggles. His struggles are the reason for the shuffling. If you can play LT, where you are going against the other team's best pass rusher, then there's no excuse to not be able to handle the other side. I think he is a horrible fit for the interior, and I don't know why they would try him there for any reason other than to just throw something against the wall and hope it sticks.

That's possible, as far as trying to find the right spot for him...I just can't imagine it is helpful

dizzle88 · 08-21-2016, 03:59 PM

Being from the UK I'm not too sure, but isn't Stanford supposed to be a school for smart people?

So if Peat came from Stanford, how can he not grasp simple blocking assignments, no matter if he switches between positions in training camp.

rezburna · 08-21-2016, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I think Lelito would win it; just because he's started for us before. I'd like to see Turner win it though; I think he has more potential

Agreed.

Danno · 08-21-2016, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9 View Post
Guy's it PRESEASON!

Speaking of Pre-...

Wow, just wow.

Crusader · 08-21-2016, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Being from the UK I'm not too sure, but isn't Stanford supposed to be a school for smart people?

So if Peat came from Stanford, how can he not grasp simple blocking assignments, no matter if he switches between positions in training camp.

I don't think its so much about grasping the scheme or assignments as it is not getting enough time on one spot to get comfortable at that position. On an NFL level you need to be in a position where you feel good and can just do what you are supposed to without thinking about it. Just switching stance is a MAJOR thing.

Danno · 08-21-2016, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I don't think its so much about grasping the scheme or assignments as it is not getting enough time on one spot to get comfortable at that position. On an NFL level you need to be in a position where you feel good and can just do what you are supposed to without thinking about it. Just switching stance is a MAJOR thing.

True, and understanding is a lot different than reacting.

Thousands of former athletes know the plays inside and out. Very few can process in the micro-seconds it takes to succeed in the NFL.

Airline Pilots know what to do in an emergency in mere seconds. Fighter pilots know what to do in micro-seconds.

Thousands of athletes are "physically" capable of playing CB (speed, explosion, hips, length, attitude, etc). Very few can avoid the 1/4 second delay in reaction that it takes to prevent a TD and force a PBU.

Hopefully Peat just needs some more time to sync his brain to his reactions and footwork. So far it looks like that may not happen.

RailBoss · 08-21-2016, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Speaking of Pre-...

Wow, just wow.

Is Michael C. Hebert Saints photographer in any way related to Bobby?

The Dude · 08-21-2016, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Y'all do realize Peat has had to play three, THREE, positions since training camp started less than a month ago?!?

Was he bad? Hell yeah, he was that bad...

But Armstead was out and he was at LT, then he moved to RG, then he moved to RT to spell Strief, then he moved to RG, then back to LT...

How many of you mail room clerks could handle being moved from the 3rd floor, then the 15th floor, then the 9th floor with no mistakes within a two week period?

Let him stay at one position for two weeks, then judge...

The guy came in great shape this season and was playing well at LT to all the shuffling started...

I think if he was any good at any position they would leave him there. I think they are moving him around so much in hopes that a light bulb will go of somewhere at one of them and he will settle in. So far that hasnt happened and he has sucked at all of them.

The Dude · 08-21-2016, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If it is Dallas, Tony Romo won't last till Game 2, then we'll have the leverage with McCown...

Grayson has really impressed with his improvement and is ready to spot start at the least...

It would not surprise me at all to see an Ingram trade at some point. He has value, the Saints can blame the lack of production on his part this preseason on the offensive line. I think he is about all we have and the other backs didnt seem to do much worse and maybe even better.

08-21-2016, 02:46 PM	#41
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Well it's over guys I think a big reason Peat is shuffling around, isn't simply because they need help at different positions, but because they are trying to find some place where he isn't a complete liability. I thought he was incredibly underwhelming before they ever drafted him, and I sat here and watched the obligatory "don't judge him until he plays a down" comments last year. But the fact is he is proving his doubters right, and until he turns it around, I don't know why anyone wants to make excuses for him. Shuffling around is not the reason for his struggles. His struggles are the reason for the shuffling. If you can play LT, where you are going against the other team's best pass rusher, then there's no excuse to not be able to handle the other side. I think he is a horrible fit for the interior, and I don't know why they would try him there for any reason other than to just throw something against the wall and hope it sticks. dam1953, K Major, MarchingOn and 1 others like this.
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08-21-2016, 03:48 PM	#42
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by burningmetal I think a big reason Peat is shuffling around, isn't simply because they need help at different positions, but because they are trying to find some place where he isn't a complete liability. I thought he was incredibly underwhelming before they ever drafted him, and I sat here and watched the obligatory "don't judge him until he plays a down" comments last year. But the fact is he is proving his doubters right, and until he turns it around, I don't know why anyone wants to make excuses for him. Shuffling around is not the reason for his struggles. His struggles are the reason for the shuffling. If you can play LT, where you are going against the other team's best pass rusher, then there's no excuse to not be able to handle the other side. I think he is a horrible fit for the interior, and I don't know why they would try him there for any reason other than to just throw something against the wall and hope it sticks. That's possible, as far as trying to find the right spot for him...I just can't imagine it is helpful

08-21-2016, 03:59 PM	#43
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Well it's over guys Being from the UK I'm not too sure, but isn't Stanford supposed to be a school for smart people? So if Peat came from Stanford, how can he not grasp simple blocking assignments, no matter if he switches between positions in training camp.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I think Lelito would win it; just because he's started for us before. I'd like to see Turner win it though; I think he has more potential Agreed.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by dizzle88 Being from the UK I'm not too sure, but isn't Stanford supposed to be a school for smart people? So if Peat came from Stanford, how can he not grasp simple blocking assignments, no matter if he switches between positions in training camp. I don't think its so much about grasping the scheme or assignments as it is not getting enough time on one spot to get comfortable at that position. On an NFL level you need to be in a position where you feel good and can just do what you are supposed to without thinking about it. Just switching stance is a MAJOR thing. Danno, spkb25 and mleg1972 like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by Crusader I don't think its so much about grasping the scheme or assignments as it is not getting enough time on one spot to get comfortable at that position. On an NFL level you need to be in a position where you feel good and can just do what you are supposed to without thinking about it. Just switching stance is a MAJOR thing. True, and understanding is a lot different than reacting. Thousands of former athletes know the plays inside and out. Very few can process in the micro-seconds it takes to succeed in the NFL. Airline Pilots know what to do in an emergency in mere seconds. Fighter pilots know what to do in micro-seconds. Thousands of athletes are "physically" capable of playing CB (speed, explosion, hips, length, attitude, etc). Very few can avoid the 1/4 second delay in reaction that it takes to prevent a TD and force a PBU. Hopefully Peat just needs some more time to sync his brain to his reactions and footwork. So far it looks like that may not happen. spkb25 likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by Danno Speaking of Pre-... Wow, just wow. Is Michael C. Hebert Saints photographer in any way related to Bobby?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by jeanpierre Y'all do realize Peat has had to play three, THREE, positions since training camp started less than a month ago?!? Was he bad? Hell yeah, he was that bad... But Armstead was out and he was at LT, then he moved to RG, then he moved to RT to spell Strief, then he moved to RG, then back to LT... How many of you mail room clerks could handle being moved from the 3rd floor, then the 15th floor, then the 9th floor with no mistakes within a two week period? Let him stay at one position for two weeks, then judge... The guy came in great shape this season and was playing well at LT to all the shuffling started... I think if he was any good at any position they would leave him there. I think they are moving him around so much in hopes that a light bulb will go of somewhere at one of them and he will settle in. So far that hasnt happened and he has sucked at all of them.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Well it's over guys Originally Posted by jeanpierre If it is Dallas, Tony Romo won't last till Game 2, then we'll have the leverage with McCown... Grayson has really impressed with his improvement and is ready to spot start at the least... It would not surprise me at all to see an Ingram trade at some point. He has value, the Saints can blame the lack of production on his part this preseason on the offensive line. I think he is about all we have and the other backs didnt seem to do much worse and maybe even better.
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