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Cut Grayson now!!!!!!!

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0 and 3 and Grayson just fizzled out.

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that was uh huh gly is what that was.

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Fans postgame reaction to that performance tonight.....

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Aah-hee-hoo aah-woo-hoo
WHAT!?

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He really made some poor decisions late. I don't see a whole lot of progress from G Grayson.

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The team as a whole hasn't shown any progress as of yet

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In my eyes we still look a step behind or to late

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Was it really that bad?

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We can stop the run

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Hate to say it but were all going to wind up losing it.

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They were also down 24-7 at one point.

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This org needs to start drafting for need instead of BPA. Especially when the Oline is that bad.

You are seeing it is much easier to fix an offense than it is a defense. But this team is going backwards trying to get away from their philosophy.

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That starts with Payton.

I don't feel like he really has a vision for what this team should be and it's showing.

In 09, very first preseason game we came out making sure everyone knew we would get our hands on the ball regardless of what they did and forced mistakes.
Not to mention our offense emphasized the run game.

I just don't see a vision what our team is supposed to be, our O line can't run block, Brees is going to get killed behind it.

One more thing, I like PJ Williams but come on man, turn your head and look for the ball!!!!!
Thats two games in a row he's been beaten for big gains or a TD and hasn't turned to locate the ball.

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That was Devante Harris who got beat by AB

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While I wouldn't give up on Grayson just yet, I'd agree that Ryan Griffin looked helluva lot better than this...

Would've love to have a candid, off-the-record conversation with Coach Payton to know why we abandoned Ryan Griffin...

Can't help but wonder if that bar incident where Griffin got his head busted open with a bottle it had something to do with his departure...

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The saints have shown once again to be so shallow on the DL and OL that no diving signs need to be posted in this player pool

this has been going on for years.

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I didn't mean the TD, PJ got beat by Marcus Wheaton for a 31 yard pass and never tried to locate the ball.

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Hate to say this but SP is done. If I have to eat my words, good, but I don't think I will. He is done as a head coach...

How many losing seasons before we fire him?

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Well as for as a rebuilding year we looked good.

But the cool aide they been passing out at camp was like we are going to make a serious run in the play offs.

Lets see who is going to get the top pick in the draft this year the Browns or us?

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Rookie mistake, but PJ Williams will get better; Aaron Glenn will make sure of it...

Great thing is, it was preseason, it didn't costs us a "W".

Season hasn't begun, so don't consider a bad preseason performance a "slam dunk" that we're going to be in the "lottery" of a top ten pick...

But there's some work to be done along the offensive line...

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I hope your right, I just remember myself thinking someone like Corey White or Patrick Robinson would eventually learn to locate the ball and it never happened.

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Agreed. PJ is essentially a rookie (injury redshirt in 2015) but will improve as the season progresses. Give him game experience. Until we get a solid "push" up the middle, expect corners and LB's to be exposed however ELLERBE is a stud.

Was it just me or does James Laurinitus (sp) appear SLOW?

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Re watched Peat and he looked a lot better last night. Just leave him at RG and let's go. I also thought LANDON TURNER played well. I see potential. Good in the run game & was consistent in the passing. He can't be any worse than Lelito.

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the oline was atrocious top to bottom. nothing was good or optimistic. They're flat out horrible. SP Has no one to thank but himself

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They should call it pre-season evaluation because by the first regular season game a lot of the evaluees hopefully will be gone.

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If you are talking about the starters, sorry but that is wrong. I haven't watched the first to games but I did look over the first half against the Steelers twice (parts of it three times).


The right side with Strief and Peat looked decent for the most part. Strief had one play where he didn't set up well but overall he doesn't do a lot of mistakes, got to the outside well on the stretch/toss play.
Strief and Peat had a little trouble with picking up the stunts but that is mostly a communication thing that will sort itself out with more reps together.

Peat looked a lot better than he did last year. You can see flashes of athleticism like when he gets downfield on the screen to Cadet. He just needs to get his technique right on every play and sit down because when he do he does a pretty good job.

Unger is solid.

Left guard is the weakest spot. It doesn't matter if it says 65 or 68 on the back, they are both garbage. They plant their feet and just don't move in passpro. They are a little better in run but not a whole lot.

Armstead only got a couple of plays. Can't say much about him. Its a huge drop-off when Hill comes in but that is to be expected. We need TA to get healthy.

And the rest of the O,
Spiller looks healthy for real this year, moves well and seem to have all the speed left. Cadet looked decent too he just needs to hold on to the ball. The running was solid yet unspectacular. We had a 4.3yd/carry average which is all right, pretty close to breaking longer ones, they will come.

I love the young receivers we have. They gonna be one of the best groups in the league.

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Well hopefully it's a 16+ games season for us and Ellerbe has a long way to go...

Stupar looks every bit as good in coverage...

James Laurinaitis looks to be a stop-gap until we draft a better talent, though Craig Robertson has more physical talent, think the Coaching Staff wants a take-charge field marshal for the defense which Laurinaitis does well...

Would have like Nick Vigil in the third round...

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they looked stellar, my apologies. 33 yards in the first quarter..**** hott they were

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I like Stupar AND Mauti.

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Such an enlightened response.

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Well, the past two drafts we pretty much did do just that...

We needed an interior defensive lineman and took one in the first round - Sheldon Rankins (check)...

We needed a new "X" receiver and took one in the second round in Mike Thomas (check)...

We needed a Free Safety because the one we have loves the tub and we traded two picks (3rd (78th) pick and 4th (112th) pick) (check, but problem)...

This is where Loomis fails as a GM; the Mickster overpaid for Byrd, who's been nothing short of a disaster of a signing; two seasons virtually non-existent return, production; and guaranteed money that leaves the player with no motivation to get back to the field and play to a level commensurate with the compensation; we could've retained a first round pick for less in Malcolm Jenkins...

Because of the need of a Free Safety to be "available" on Sundays, he then compounded the problem spending two picks, the 3rd round and 4th round picks to reach into the second round to take Bell, who's not starting and probably won't be because of the financial commitment to Byrd; this is f*cked logic and p*ss poor draft/personnel management...

Now remember the 3rd and 4th round picks we traded to get Bell?

Later in the draft we decide to get an insurance for Rankins, or help on the inside and we trade two (2) more picks, our fifth (152nd) pick and a future fifth round pick to take a "project" in Onyemata; I'd agree the potential is there, but why are we developing players when we need performance now; if Onyemata is playing significant minutes by season's end, that could help in leverage when we have to revisit, assess retaining Fairley...

But here's the thing...

Had we not reached on Bell, stayed pat and selected a player in the third round like a Safety (possibly Vonn Bell), a Guard (Joe Thuney), perhaps a Linebacker (Nick Virgil was my choice), we then still could've taken Onyemata with our own 4rd (112th) pick and still had our 5rd (152nd) pick to select a need (plenty of Guards, Linebackers and Defensive Tackles were still on the board) and we wouldn't have had to give a up a future pick from next year...

We hit some salvation with our 7rd pick with RB Daniel Lasco; which we needed because we're over-committed at RB with regards to the salary cap with both Ingram and Spiller...

It is these bad cap/personnel decisions and draft management is why we still have personnel/position holes and why we're handicapping ourselves before we take the field...

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Sometimes I think Payton has to be in the spotlight and this is one of those ways. I like Bell and Omi. but 2 picks apiece for both I didn't care for those picks could have been used elsewhere. Remember Ingram being picked the same spot as his dad, Payton's got to put on a show.

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Don't think Payton has "got to be the smartest guy in the draft room" syndrome...

If he does, then it's on his boss, Mickey Loomis, to call him on it which reinforces criticism of Loomis' draft management...