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I know I know I'll get blasted for this but hear me out.

We are just prolonging the inevitable. Start cleaning house and trade anything we can get value for. Dallas needs a QB even the Bronco's may even jump at it. Get us a couple of younger players showing promise this off season and a couple of picks.

I think Sean is a great coach if he wanted to buy some time keeping his job... I could respect him more by cleaning house now or a year or two ago. We are going to have to clean house including getting rid of him if he doesn't do it himself.

Every so often you need to clean house and start fresh. Unless you are the Patriots and they make the playoffs every year which is more that I can say about us lately.

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Trading brees is like throwing away the season before it start

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That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

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Its too late for that imo.
Had this been done before FA when the money could have been spent i could understand rebuilding. Not now,not unless your willing to throw the season away and get a hatful of picks next year

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Yes let's trade Brees. Let's also trade Cooks and Michael Thomas since they will also reap some deep rewards. We could also probably get some good trades for Stephone Anthony and Delvin Breaux. Let's keep all the crappy players and build around them!

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I could fathom the thought maybe at the end of last season... No way in hell though I would clean house...

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He hadn't said that though has he.
The suggestion is do you trade the man while you can or do you pay him huge money again. Money that will handicap revuilding a team that has made the post season once since 2011,is 33-33 in that time frame. Now ive not looked at the college QBs but could a niddle of the road QB work behind a good line with the Saints weapons and a improved dedense?. Plenty of young or average QBs have

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I guess this dead horse has been reincarnated.
We will pay Brees $30 million this year if he plays for us or not.


and did he always have that apostrophe in his name?

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I could see Brees traded but only after the season. I could see them place the franchise tag on him for 43 million and trade him to the 49ers or Cleveland for a draft pick or 2. He would probably sign a 3 year deal with another team paying him 25 million a year. We get a rd 2 and rd 3 next year. No way we should let him walk with nothing. Make him sign with us or trade him to the worst team in the league.

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Dude you can't even tell it was a horse.

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When is the next time we are going to have a great QB? It took us 40 years to get Brees. Once he's gone there will be 3-4 years of trial and error Qbs before we will have time to really evaluate their potential. If it doesn't work by that time you will have a host of other players to pay.

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Also his name is Brees not Bree plural or whatever.

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The Patriots make the playoffs every year because the rest of the division is a dumpster fire; same as the 49ers in the 80s with the Saints, Rams and failclowns.

Why now that the defense is at least showing some signs of life, would you want to get rid of the one player that is making the Saints relevant?

Do the Saints have issues that need be and should have already been addressed? Absolutely!

So do 31 other teams, but I doubt you will find many posts from fans calling for the team to clean house!

Brees is not the reason the Saints are in cap hell, or the defense has sucked for several years!

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We can win it all this year with Brees.
We can't without him.
He's got 2 or 3 good years left.
Stop, please just stop.

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Classic throwing the baby out with the bath water mentality!

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If we traded Brees I'd put my montly wage on us getting the first pick in 2017 draft.

Would be an idiotic decision, no way is Grayson ready and McCown is serviceable at best.

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The part about throwing the season away... it is sort of the point.

This team is floundering in mediocrity. A sinking ship if you will. The one way to right the ship is jettison what we have and rebuild. It is going to happen sooner or later why not stop wasting out time with the same 8-8 and 7-9 if we are lucky this season. Why not cut bait and start rebuilding. I know it is to late in the off season now but there are some opportunities out there to begin.

I have the feeling that won't even happen this off season coming up.

I am just wondering why the rebuilding hasn't begun yet!

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A couple of things...

One, would Payton stick around without Brees or a franchise quarterback?

Probably not, as Payton wouldn't want his "stock" to take a hit...

Two, Brees is contracted to the end of the season at a cap cost to the Saints of $30 mil and then he's a free agent after the end of season?

Who'd make that trade? - maybe the Broncos, and they'd likely be in the Final Four of the tournament, so you're gonna get, what?!? A first round pick at the end of the draft?

There's only one sensible course of action at this point, play out the season with Brees, scouting his level of play charting any possible decline in play and make an informed decision, course of action at that point...

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??

The rebuilding begun last year on defense. Hired a competent DC in Dennis Allen. How about the rookies playing in 2015? On top of that, we've added new corners, drafted NT (our 1st pick in this years draft) & added two new safeties (Bell & Erik) this year. I'd say defense is already in rebuild mode.

As far as cutting bait, didn't we get rid of Rob & #39?

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I would let him play out the season. We have already paid fot it. The O-line being as it is he'll be lucky to make the season and if he does I don't think we resign him anyway. As for Payton, a losing season drops his stock as a HC but he is still one of the top OC's in the buisness. I don't think he would be out of work unless he wanted to. So far McCarthy in GB has done alot better than Payton(it really pains me to say that) maybe GB"s FO is better than ours from top to bottom. They at least show they are thats even trading Favre away.

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I can agree the D has jump started in rebuid mode but Allen has proven nothing so far. I don't believe he's all what he's hyped up to be and thats with Payton stacking the deck for him.

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Are the inmates running the Asylum.

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lmao

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I've said it a bunch but if anyone has any value and makes any sense to trade it is Ingram. He's got good enough stock and has shown the ability to carry the load. Blame his lack of production this preseason on the offensive line. It's a good selling point to other teams. Seems like the other backs while unproven have done a better job anyway.
I don't know if it's feasible financially but it makes sense other than that.
I really like Ingram too so don't start with the Bama hate.

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Lol, you think this is bad, check out the other board.

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He will play this year for us regardless but after that is a mystery. If no contract is reached for next season we could franchise him for about 43 million and with a salary cap of 155 million that's very cost prohibitive. Remember Drew will be a year older and will only command high dollars from the win now at all costs teams. All I'm saying is why would a team sign Bree's after this season for a 2 or 3 year contract at premium dollars and then he retires at 40 when they could start a rookie this year and have a franchise QB for 10 to 15 years? They wouldn't. I truly believe they will get him what he deserves but at the same time protecting the teams interest and that's in the best interest of everyone including the fans.

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This organizaton did not start caring until Benson took over. As long as SP is here he will look for the next answer at qb. Remember our history was also throwing away talent. We threw away Delhomme, Ricky Williams, Bobby Hebert. The history is the past. The organization made stupid mistakes because the technology for offenses was not available then. That is not our team now.

Also, the saints had a better record in their non-playoff years under Haslett outside of one season than the saints non-playoff years outside of one season. 9-7, 8-8, 8-8>7-9, 8-8, 7-9, 7-9, 7-9.

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Euphoria has some valid sentiments, but I just wish Benson/Loomis would sign Brees already so Saints would be front page on ESPN and we wouldn't need this thread.

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I say trade him just to satisfy that group of our fans who want him gone. We'll get laughed at by the rest of the NFL, collectively, and return to 3 to 4 wins seasons. Makes sense, right?

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IMO the only move that makes sense is getting Brees under contract for another 5 years, and continue to build a team around him. We are talking about a Hall of Fame Elite QB with plenty left in the tank. Probably a once in a lifetime QB for the Saints franchise, who by the way until Brees got to town only had maybe a solid QB or two over the course of their entire history. With Brees the Saints will always have some hope, without we are looking forward to top 5 draft picks for the next several years.

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We were a pitiful excuse for a franchise before Drew Brees came to New Orleans! He is the face of the franchise and the unquestioned leader of this team. He has given us a Super bowl. Without Drew Brees we become a rudderless ship again. He single handedly carries this team on his shoulders and is a first ballot HOF'er .

Sure. Let's get rid of him. :bang:

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Love him and trading him would be stupid but I think he needs to make another Super Bowl push to be a first ballot.

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He should be first ballot if he retired today.

Hold far too many records not to be